IMPORTANT NOTE: Hell(o), MistaWho here to tell you a few things. Stigmata didn't release all that I wanted to release, and since I am now 1/2 of the Dogma staff, I thought it couldn't hurt to do this. I need to like do Editor type stuff anyways, right? Oh well, here is what I wanted to do with Dogma #3. If anything is missing, kick Stig in the ass. No lil' file_id.diz for this one, cause I DO NOT NEED ONE. Buh bye now. _________ | | _____ _ __________ _____|_______|_____/ /_________ ____|___ \ | _______________ _/ ___/--.______ / /_______\_____ | \ | | | \ | \ / /\ ____// | _ \_ | _ | | \_ | \ / / \ | |//_____/ |//___ |________/ |_____\/ /____\ _ | `-------' `-----'_____|_ | /_______/ \//_____| \\ // | |____________| #3 (: table of contents :) 1. Editorial (stigmata/loopy/mistawho) 2. Dogma Reviews (mistawho) 3. Anti-AOL (logger) 4. Why MTV sucks (stigmata) 5. Nasty IRC Channels (mistawho) 6. Time Stamps (follow-up) (mistawho) 7. The Ansi Scene (the masked maurader) 8. Your and IRC nerd if.. (mistawho) 9. How to submit to Dogma (mistawho) 10. IRC Polls (loopy) 11. Funny IRC Quotes (loopy) 12. Last words (stigmata) ------------------------------------------------------ A. - The Dogma site/member listings B. - To quit the Dogma ishue #THREE viewer ------------ *** ------------ _:______ ___ .... _:______ ......... | _, | \ / : : | _, | : : .---------------| | |----------\---------:--:-----| | |--------:------.: | _________ | | /_\ : : | | :......|: |_\\\ \ ,-------,____ _____________:..: | |_ ___________ _| |___\_______\ _\__ __ \ /___________/__ -----,________:__\_________\\\_\ _____ / \ // \\_\_____ | | ________/ ______/ \_| _ \______/ \ / / | | \_// \/ \ |\_____________\ ---,________/ ______,-------' | \__ \_________ | ___ | . ......... \_________| //------' | `--.- - \ / | | : : |________// - -.--' `------\-----| |-----:-------:---------------| |------------' /_\ | | :.......: | | `------:- dogma ishue #THREE `------:- Booyah Dogma issue number three is now out. Thats right released during the during the biggest snow storm in the East Coast's history. Ya see how dedicated we are? w00p. Anyways a lot of new features this month, like the dogma viewer! thats right now you can view your favorite irc zine online! just load dogma-03.irc and follow the instructions. And like always we have our interview with someone cool (except for this month), funny irc quotes, way to harrass irc users, and dogma reviews. So enuff with me talking.. on with the show! -stigmata dogma #free. i dont have too much to say this month, except that check out a part of irc.mcs.net's motd: *** - ******************************************************** *** - We are testing an upgraded server that should help *** - reduce channel take overs and nick collides. Please *** - report any problems to riss@mcs.net Thanks! 12/27/95 *** - -Riss *** - ******************************************************** btw, this blizzard the east cost got rocked..i had to shovel 2+ feet of snow off of my driveway. good exercise. and a word to any opers that read this or any pd fags: this is not a collider zine. nowhere does it say how to collide or does it support/promote colliding. -loOpy Dogma #3, neato, eh? Well, I didn't put it together, but I did do a great deal of work. Such as the Reviews Are In, The Dogma IRC Viewer, and also this stupid editorial. It's a lot of work for a computer nerd with a life (at least, I think I have one, where did it go?). In store for next month, MYSELF will be putting together Dogma #FOUR, that's too much work for me, but I'm going to do it anyways. I will be doing ALL the editing and also putting together the next version of this spiffy viewer, and I MIGHT even get a response on the TimeStamps from some of the adminstrators out there in unix land. That's it from me this month, until Dogma #4, I'll see you later. -mistawho [ fewlish@zipnet.com ] ------------ *** ------------ If this is a magazine you like, you are probably wondering if anybody else likes it. Although a few didn't, and a few just plain hated it (as with EVERY magazine out there), there are the ones who just adored it all to hell, and some who didn't read it but said they liked it because I told them to. Read on fellow groupie :) it was funner to read then flashing people on #gaysex [: mistaj03 :] obsid? [: mistaj03 :] goddamn him uh [: mistaj03 :] he probably didn't even read the goddamn magazine guys this is guna sound a bit redundant but KILL FAGGOTS [: mistaj03 :] that's great obsid YES! hahah [: mistaj03 :] NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION OBSID [: mistaj03 :] wut did you think about dogma 2? what? what did EyE think about dogma? [: mistaj03 :] y3Z i thought it was fuckin funny [: mistaj03 :] that's it? [: mistaj03 :] NOW OBSID, that's redundant oBsiD`iCE> well i should come up with something alot more eloquent then [: mistaj03 :] well, yeah :) ok gimme a minute ok thinkin still [: mistaj03 :] hahaha [: mistaj03 :] don't hurt yourself obsid dogma 2 was a wonderful compilation of pure wit and skill. It touched my heart like no other. :) WAHAHAH Dogma, issue number 2, was an ecstatic roller coaster of thrills and chills. It had such eloquence, that it made me want to stop killing fags for a seconds, and read it thrice hahahahahaa [: mistajew :] YOU ARE BEING LOGGED Cool [: mistajew :] this is for a "The reviews are IN!" section [: mistajew :] tell me, intelligently, wut you thought of Dogma #2 -V- Kills: 34 - Attempts: 239 - Percentage: 0 I think it was pretty good It could of used my article though => [: mistajew :] that's it? that's the quote you want in Dogma #3? hmm yeah great Well, It was phat like loopy's mom *eO-* its the best fucking dos-editor-mag out :) *ewheat* dogma helped me with my life. I'm not impotent anymore. girls love me. i got a cool car now. i got cash. and doggone it, I got a big stiffie now. *ewheat* one night, I was in #sexchat and after .3 seconds, I was full of it... I had to find a kleenex, but LUCKILY I found a printed copy of dogma and, boy, it could hold my manhood. doggone it... *cybernary* Yea, its all fun and games till you get your sister pregnant! *cybernary* Dogma#2 - so good, ellisdee took time out from fucking his fetal pig to read it! *cybernary* Dogma#2 - so good it made Cybernary draw his first pic in over a year! *illusionX* Dogma #2 was so damn good that it cured my severe case of genitalla fungi *RZa* iT wAS cULE, But i finna like things with no .EXEs *pOd_* what so you use to write scripts? *hollow* parental relations have become more developed and in tune due to dogma#2 *epidemic* i think that peanut butter is tasty *epidemic* if an ansi artist makes an ansi for a board that is not up... does it make a sound? -mistawho ------------ *** ------------ An Essay on the degradation of the Internet through commercialization, large corporate entities, and a simplification of services. I apologize for this essay being more directed at AOL, it began as an anti-AOL essay and progressed from there. Although much has been written on the subject of AOL, I believe that many people, especially AOL users, still do not understand why anyone who truly uses the internet with any regularity has a strong distaste for America Online users. First, I think we should define a true internet user. A True Internet User is Someone who uses an internet service provider (ISP) that is not a national service, and requires them to use UNIX. Netcom is sort of on the edge of acceptable. I used their service for about 2 weeks, as someone offered to share their shell account with me. the shell was an acceptable shell, it did not have a bullshit menu providing me with things to do, and allowed me easy access to a unix prompt. However, i've also been told by people at school (high school) that they "just got on the Internet" with Netcom's Netcruiser software, which is just a click and go service such as AOL. This windows based software is unacceptable. Someone with an internet provider that does NOT charge an hourly rate. You should never be charged extra for what is offered free on the internet. AOL charges people hourly fees, which I find disgusting, partly because I spend much time online, but also because the spirit is movtivated towards milking the users by charging extra for sub-services. The only providers I have been on do not charge any hourly rates, but only a low monthly rate, generally under $20. Someone with at least a basic knowledge of UNIX. I don't believe that people have to be born with a knowledge of one of the more difficult operating systems to deal with, but the way that I learned DOS was through experimentation. I picked apart every function of the computer. If I got stuck, i'd ask someone at my school for a clue as to what some function does. I learned UNIX in the same manner, as my school has provided UNIX machines for several years now. Using UNIX should be a pre-requisite for the use of the Internet. People may not think it is fair, but it really is necessary to serve your time as a lamer, but stay out of people's way, picking up knowledge from the sidelines. This is how I learned, I did not go into channels and DEMAND that someone tell me why WSIRC was not transferring my 30 disk CD-RIP back to my AOL account properly, and that I absolutely had to mail out 30 copies of WarezMail on AOL by midnight tonight, or my friends wouldn't give me the latest program for harassing AOL users. Why America Online is well on its way to ruining the Internet Let's get one thing straight, the commercialization of the internet is NOT a good thing. There are a ridiculous amount of porn peddlers offering their wares (no, not warez) on the web. The original intent of the Internet was a university based system for trading information among professors as an alternative to Tymnet, which was a business based nationwide network. If anyone has been on usenet at all recently, they have felt the influence of AOL users. They are constantly spamming newsgroups. And have basically overrun the newsgroups with their postings. They have no concept of netiquette whatsoever. America Online itself is a very weak service. I give NO props to anyone who is proud of their AOL hacking ability. I don't understand why anyone really wants to hack AOL, it's really pointless in the long run, there's no use in having accounts on a totally useless system. The only person i'd give any props to is the person who intercepted the internal corporate mail and posted it on Usenet. Places to Find AOL's degrading presence on the internet: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica this newsgroup has had AOLamers running rampant on it for a while now. None of them will shut up, every time a new one comes on, they have no inclination to read the FAQ, every single one of them feels the need to ask how they can download the pictures that are uuencoded. They are not used to anything that does not cater directly to their needs. This leads to flooding of the newsgroups with requests on how to download, and then leads to counter flooding from people with fake offers to people on america online offering to sell them information on how to download. Both parties are equally at fault. irc, any channel, especially warez channels. i'm not a big advocate of big warez channels at all, most of them suck. #warez950 is a far overgrown temporary channel, if you do a ctcp version to the channel, you will see that approximately 95% of the average 120 users on there at one time are using mIRC to trade warez. Many of them are using AOL's new winsock emulator. It's quite disgusting actually, and gives warez trading a bad name (yeah, i know that's hard =) The only warez channels i have any respect for are the more private group channels, which are the only ones now where anything productive is done without hordes of lamers trying to get their hands on some 0 day. #fate is a nice channel, fATE rules anyways. I won't list all the other channels, as some of them are open, and would not appreciate an influx of mIRC lamers xdcc listing them every 5 seconds. As a whole, the commercialization of the internet has been quite a painful process for the original residents. It's sort of like having a gigantic mall, such as the one in Vancouver, and now possibly in Silver Spring, MD that caters to the dumb American, while crushing either the current users of the net, or the small home run businesses in the immediate area. Here is a small list of some of the better anti-AOL resources http://www.en.com/users/tfinley alt.aol-sucks http://www.en.com/users/tfinley/frontend.html http://pther the current users of the net, or the small home run businesses in the immediate area. http://pn as 0-micro software.. =) they're pretty phat. thanks for listening, I'll leave you with a Bill Gates quote: "640k should be enough for anyone." -logger bill logger@scooby.tiac.net ------------ *** ------------ MTV - What have they done! gasp Bah now when you turn on the good ol' tele today usually at the end of any commercial you see a: http://www.we.are.tools.com BAH$(@*&% what the fuck has mtv done.. YES we all remember MTV YACK online on the leetest place to be, America Online. Bah thas where every looser and his/her looser friends could type shit about there favorite videos online and one MTV at the same time. WHAT A GOOD IDEA()*#$.. yea my fucking ass.. that has started a 'computer craze' in which now every one needs to be 'online'. Why us, why do us elite people have to put up with the antics of these fucking poser, mtv riden bastards.. we shouldnt i tell you. Today i logon to one of my good friends boards.. defective mind's black sunshine and im scanning the messages and i come upon this: oOo. Defective mind blurted out in a hopeless stutter >What the hell is with this shit... every damn kid and his brother has a >goddamn web page now. Im on my lunch line in school and im listening to a >conversation a couple of drama fags are having... This one kid kept going on >and on about web web this and that... he had no idea about what he was >talking about... and then i hear the other... "yea america online sure is >great, they regulate the internet" i couldnt hold the laughter in... this >shit is pathetic. And these kids throw around words like telnet and ftp and >they got no idea what they're talking about. This fat ugly bitch is talking >to my math teacher about how she has a new bbs and he should telnet to it. >Yet she clearly had no idea what tcp/ip was. what the fuck has mtv done Defective mind was forever silenced .oOo Actually MTV is done... They Have publicized 'Cyberspace' to death... it's gonna find something cooler to destroy now :) YAY see what the fuck i mean!!! damnit im so pissed about this shit i cant even type! heh THE BOTTOM LINE IS: kill mtv.. mail bomb there inet accts and aol accts.. fucking bomb threat there fucking office building.. kill all the dj's cept daisy and jenny 'cus they give me wood, and fucking trash your television.. argh thanks to MTV internet is getting to big.. so as Vector X says: 'Its _just_ internet, break it before it gets to big' -stigmata ------------ *** ------------ If you get raped, CHANCES are the person that raped you is an internet junkie (or so they say). I personally think this was untrue, until I went through efnet and found some REALLY sick channels. Check these people out, avoid them, they are the future sex offenders of our so-called "great" nation. Now, you are saying "but what about the people who just pass through to see if these channels just exist?". Well, I thought of that, and took this log at the bleakest of hours, 3 AM in the morning [which is in the Pacific time zone for me] and started to log like a mad man. Check out the results, you just might KNOW one of these sick people. #littlegir TJM H ~Anonymous@medford01.voicenet.com [*] #littlegir Kaiser H Kaiser@ws18.ccphys.nsu.nsk.su [E-mail:] #littlegir Remo H ~Remo@modem10.ffc.se [Remo] #littlegir bizz H w/sandped@ts3lp4.NetVision.net.il [w/s and ped] #littlegir Michhael H none@dynamic-57.premier1.net [mrf] #littlegir WildWest H ~s-734554@modem8.ffc.se [Trust me!] #littlegir CybrRogue H dagger@tia1.eskimo.com [Cyber Rogue] #littlegir Lauria H draconis@eskimo.com [Lauria] #littlegir steffy H steffy-@199.183.208.74 [<<"to thy own self be true">>] #littlegir BigBill H ~billm@an1_ph.tir.com [billy mumy] #littlegir _Keeps_ H ~dip@dialup-17-b-153.gw.umn.edu [You Wish You Knew] #littlegir kodiak H hotlips@ix-or10-12.ix.netcom.com [want to have sex?] #littlegir blue-boy H ~blueboy@osk0177.bekkoame.or.jp [blueboy] #littlegir Mina96 se [Trust me!] #littlegir CybrRogue H dagger@tia1.eskimo.com [Cyber Rogue] #littlegir Lauria H draconis@eskimo.com [Lauria] #littlegir steffy H steffy-@199.183.208.74 [<<"to thy own self be true">>] #littlegir BigBill H ~billm@an1_ph.tir.com [billy mumy] #littlegir _Keeps_ H ~dip@dialup-17-b-153.gw.umn.edu [You Wish You Knew] #littlegir kodiak H hotlips@ix-or10-12.ix.netcom.com [want to have sex?] #littlegir blue-boy H ~blueboy@osk0177.bekkoame.or.jp [blueboy] #littlegir Mina96 9.234.151.169.du.nauticom.net [phaedrus [is an IRC operator] #dogsex Goldie H@ inf@ns.clever.net [I'm to Sexxxi for ya mUtt] *** Topic for #llamasex: Oh no! We're at war with #deersex! *gasp* *** #llamasex niq 819957004 #llamasex beaker G*@ rlchen@carnitas.engr.ucdavis.edu [it's just me] #llamasex Rhiannon G@ andrea@emunix.emich.edu [Too old for innocence, too yo ng for wisdom.] #llamasex niq G@ Niq@syn.cs.wmich.edu [Why don't we do it in the road?] #llamasex Pills G*@ mjp@ren.us.itd.umich.edu [Conform or be cast out] #llamasex WintrHawk G@ khuon@espresso.merit.net [This isn't flying; it's fall ng with style.] #llamasex Sahara H*@ michelle@sandcastle.ccs.itd.umich.edu [Am I right? Am wrong? Or am I just dreaming...?] [fK] [.:.] Information [.:.] [fK] [: Nick :] [: beaker :] [fK] [: Name :] [: it's just me :] [fK] [: Address :] [: rlchen@carnitas.engr.ucdavis.edu :] [fK] [: Channels :] [: @#llamasex @#MachsCafe :] [fK] [: Server :] [: irc.sdsc.edu :] *** beaker is away: around maybe... [fK] beaker is one of those goddamn IRC Operators Is it just me, or does it make you uncomfortable to know that the people in "charge" of us are freaks? Larz, Comstud, and Subzero to name a few are cool IRC Operators, but people like Beaker, well, you know what I am saying here. #littleboy Bigbro H@ crumpler@netcom21.netcom.com [5'10" 160# Blond/Blue] |: Bigbro :| you like sex with boys? -> [:Bigbro:] No, i'm doing a log of what type of NASTY fuck ups like yourself hang in those channels. [fK] [.:.] Information [.:.] [fK] [: Nick :] [: Bigbro :] [fK] [: Name :] [: 5'10" 160# Blond/Blue :] [fK] [: Address :] [: crumpler@netcom21.netcom.com :] [fK] [: Channels :] [: #boysex&pics @#littleboysex :] [fK] [: Server :] [: irc.netcom.com :] That's so fuckin' nasty #boysex&pi easy1 H easy1@anx_1.global.co.za [metax@global.co.za] #boysex&pi Crypt H ~Unknown@gem-qed.inhb.co.nz [Nothing but the best] #boysex&pi studlover H@ ~Studdude@dnet042.sat.texas.net [Computer.texas.net"] #boysex&pi jgaa H jgaa@bergen114.telepost.no [Jarle Aase] #boysex&pi Apiboy H@ ~api@violin-06.synapse.net [Allo..!] #boysex&pi Bigbro H crumpler@netcom21.netcom.com [5'10" 160# Blond/Blue] #boysex&pi lyons H@ ~none@culver_pm1_1.netvoyage.net [none] #boysex&pi C-weed H@ ~notavail@slip44.vianet.net.au [oceanman] #boysex&pi Paul666 H@ ~chris@Modem-44.Nol.Net [Chris] *** Topic for #%teengirlsex: Young girls welcome. *** #%teengirlsex overki11 819954714 #%teengirl Jump H ~Jump@h-castlerock.norfolk.infi.net [hi] #%teengirl Sindy H whipper@ix-lv9-22.ix.netcom.com [sweet and loveble] #%teengirl SchLong H showm2me@ix-nas1-27.ix.netcom.com [hugh G Rection] *** Topic for #!%teensexpics: Trade And Share Alike And Have Fun *** #!%teensexpics magick 819959991 #!%teensex BigBill H ~billm@an1_ph.tir.com [billy mumy] #!%teensex Rance H ~LAUSD@xy-ats0-port2.lausd.k12.ca.us [mike.lausd.k12.c .us] #!%teensex Stryker23 H ~sorry@k1slip8.vvm.com [just ask] #!%teensex danny H ~df@slip022.elmshorn.netsurf.de [Dan Forks] #!%teensex Wolfe H ~lars.kles@dialup102-146.swipnet.se [Martin Klesell] #!%teensex beretta H ~sashimi@ala-ca19-04.ix.netcom.com [Daniel Kim] #!%teensex Soulman H ~sil@dyn161.ppp.pacific.net.sg [Silk] #!%teensex DogHead H DogHead@unknown-215-59.apl.com [DogHead] #!%teensex MR-TIME H ~mrtime@th-ts1-14.holli.com [MR-TIME] #!%teensex TANK_ H ~ask@198.133.204.15 [Trayan] #!%teensex Cindi_CD H ~jmayes@ip55.slip.indy.net [jmayes] #!%teensex T_Bare H TB@ix-sj23-08.ix.netcom.com [Teddy Bare] #!%teensex JimmyDean H ~JD@ppp192.callamer.com ["irc.eskimo.com"] #!%teensex grend H ~asunwoo@cs102-4.u.washington.edu [a. sunwoo] #!%teensex Thomy H askforemai@194.163.210.36 [;-]"] #!%teensex Sandra H Babe@dffl5-31.gate.net [i could've been your gift ;]] #!%teensex Zyph H ~packrat@jholt.iquest.com [Dallas Vinson] #!%teensex icey H ~tom.lang@ts700-605.singnet.com.sg [tom lang] #!%teensex Sheen H ~sksint06@206.48.174.2 [Well..] #!%teensex DarkShado H chuchen@ip070.lax.primenet.com [chuchen] #!%teensex joni_ H 940854@oppi201.slk.helbp.fi [me] #!%teensex Chey H ~camber@www.eons.com [Chey] #!%teensex ladyfist H ~nono@ppp315.protel.DE [Carola Unknown] #!%teensex SamAdams H ~Ask@ix-sj22-21.ix.netcom.com ["irc.netcom.com"] #!%teensex Leonardo H Hermes@pine194.cruzio.com [Mercury] #!%teensex railman H ~trackman@du07.inow.com [johnny] #!%teensex PIXTRADER H aalahwal@x4935.dip.ecst.csuchico.edu [I'llpass] *** Topic for #100%wetpussy: ILLEGAL *** #100%wetpussy Andrew 819966434 #100%wetpu Pappy2 H jcangero@ix-ron-ny2-05.ix.netcom.com [-] #100%wetpu car9 H qamar@ix-tem-ca2-10.ix.netcom.com [ bryan jones] #100%wetpu Precious H ~jstclair@pppdi57.law-ok.sirinet.net [jstclair@sirinet net] #100%wetpu _Eric H ~down@199.123.104.24 [@primenet.com] #100%wetpu SchLong H showm2me@ix-nas1-27.ix.netcom.com [hugh G Rection] *** Topic for #%yngpussypics: MERRRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY *** #%yngpussypics brownston 819945557 #%yngpussy PIXTRADER H aalahwal@x4935.dip.ecst.csuchico.edu [I'llpass] There you have it, the future of slum on America. Avoid these people, tell your children who IRC to avoid these addresses, and most of all, mail these people and make sure they know they are the sick disgusting fuckups that they are. It's so disgusting I almost want to quit using IRC. -mistawho ------------ *** ------------ -Time Stamps on the EfNet [follow up] If you read Dogma #2 [which if you are reading this, I am very sure you did]. Then you are aware of the TimeStamp patches that are going to be or already applied to EfNet servers that decide to patch their server. This is a direct follow up to last months article. I mailed the following efnet servers admin's: irc.eskimo.com irc.texas.net irc.ais.net [They have TS patched on their server] irc.cris.com irc.netcom.com irc.gate.net irc.colorado.edu irc.mo.net Here is the letter I mailed each of these adminstrators: =========================Cut Here===================================== ._____________ [_______ ]_____________._____________._____________._____________ | Ä Ä _ \) - - _ \) - - _ \) - - _ \) - - _ \) |: | |: | |: | |: |: | | |. | |. | |. | |. | |. | | | | | | |______| | | | | | | | _:| | _:| | _:| | _:| _:| |_____________|_____________|_____________|______|______|______|______| ======================================================================= Dear System Adminstrator, As everybody is finally becoming aware the TS [TimeStamp] patches are being applied to various servers throughout the world, and I so happen to be writing a follow up to an article on this subject. pause What I would like to know is if you plan to, or already have TimeStamp patched to your EfNet server, and if not, why? I would also like to know what your thoughts on the TimeStamp idea are, and also your best definition of the TimeStamp patch, and if the FCC is involved. If you could please spare just a moment of your time to respond to this letter [you can just pick to answer a certain question if you wish], it would be MUCH appreciated. In case the address is different, please send the mail to fewlish@zipnet.com. Thank you for any cooperation you can spare. -MistaWho [Aaron Rogers] fewlish@zipnet.com =========================Cut Here===================================== The only NEAR response I got was Netcom so far. If I get any further comments from the SysAdmins, you will get it in the future editions of Dogma. Other than that, there is no more information on Time Stamps. I wish there was, as I had a half way good idea for a follow up. ===bLAH!=== In hope of the follow up, it didn't happen. I mostly got responses like, "Hey, I k-lined you once" or "fuck off". It's nice to know EVERYBODY out there just loves me, eh? -mistawho ------------ *** ------------ like, the ansi scene or something.. [--- - -] well, basically, i'm not in the ansi scene. i'm in the ascii scene, which, in my mind makes me the perfect candidate for an article on the ansi scene. why? because i am an outsider. i have never claimed to be a part of the ansi scene which is why i have a truly objective and unbiased view of the ansi scene. yes it is true that i have friends in the ansi scene, but to counter-weigh that, i also have people that i fucking hate in the ansi scene too, so i think it is pretty balanced. anyways, here is what i think of the ansi scene. the ansi scene has some real problems. and not much is being done at this point to solve that, and i think that that is pretty bad. first off, i think that the ansi scene was in its little 'heydey' around the end of 93 through the summer of 94, and then it slowly degenerated. the ansi scene at this point in time, which is all the jurisdiction of this article allows me to discuss, is really pretty disfuntional. you have acid over here, clamboring for good artists and trying to attain the pinnacle of the scene it once so enjoyed, and you have ice over there, seemingly off in its own little world. additionally you have a bunch of small groups that look up to acid and ice and 'model' themselves after the big groups. that little reflective aspect of the scene is pretty messed up if you ask me, because obviously acid and ice have big problems, and when the little groups become little understudies to the big ones the problems and the unhealthy little quirks and various disfuntional tenden- cies carry over to the small ones, and no one benefits. another problem is the group situation itself. groups are basically fucking the scene, a simple fact. i think the reason for the steady degeneration of the scene is simply the groups. when the scene rewled, there was one group, acid, and then the scene started to suck after groups like ice and others started to usurp the dynastic quality of acid. do you think i am wrong? look at the facts then, the scene started slowly biting it after the summer of 94, when ice started coming into its own. acid slowly degenerated and all the sudden there were a bunch of groups that could be number one. do you know why the scene started to suck? its real simple. people started drawing art because they wanted to get into a certain group, instead of drawing because they wanted to. additionally groups themselves, in their tyrannical little fits of self-preserving stupidity, started doing wierd things and started controlling the direction that ansi art went in. what is the solution? simple, total deconstruction. fuck all the groups and let people draw because they want to draw, not because they want to get into acid or ice or fire or whatever. well, i wonder how many people are pissed off at me now.. [--- - -] tMM..[the masked marauder] ------------ *** ------------ -You know your are a computer nerd if... 1- You get mad at your mom and threaten to collide her 2- You cry at the destruction of a good computer 3- You have a Vic-20 hung from your ceiling and you worhsip it daily. 4- You have a picture of yourself with your first computer, with it wrapped in a blanket like a newborn baby. 5- Your idea of leaving the house is playing an enviromental game. 6- Your car's sound system contains four PC Speakers. 7- When you leave home, the sun literally burns your skin. 8- Your glasses are thicker than mistawho's skull 9- You have no room left in your pocket protector for that double wide heavy ink pen you had your eyes on for so long. 10- A female asked "you out", and in excitement for the great night you pack up a serial cord and a parellel cord to tie her up. 11- When you see the shell on a turtle it reminds you of unix. 12- You put your email address as your return address on your real letters. 13- Your dad offers you a beer, but you decline because "there can't be any food or drink around your computer". 14- Your parents think you are insane and have you taken away, because you were caught talking and whistling to tones on the phone. 15- You have a 10 gig drive, and 9 of it is IRC scripts. 16- You attempt to take your own life because your ISP was taken down. 17- You commited suicide with a mouse cord. 18- You would pick your computer over your family's life 19- You feel bad when you yell at your computer in disgust and apology by typing "I'm sorry" for two hours straight. 20- Your idea of sex is plugging the keyboard into the back of your tower, and it actually turns you on. It's lame, but I was bored. -mistawho ------------ *** ------------ -What can I do for Dogma? Every single time you read a magazine, they say that you can submit to them without being commited, I hear the same thing VERY VERY often. "What can I write about?". It's very simple for Dogma, if you have a silly IRC story, or just something plain stupid about the net that you noticed, then you can submit it to Dogma! If you are not the best person when it comes to spelling, do not worry. Dogma is increasing it's editting staff and we can take care of such things with ease. Just work on your story, and leave the rest to us, but we must say one thing, if you don't like it, sorry, we must be very strict about it: Anything you submit to Dogma becomes property of Dogma. We are saying this so if we get rich with your article, then you don't get any of the legal credit or the profit. Isn't it nice to have a magazine that is always looking out for your financial future? Also, it costs $200.00 to submit to Dogma. This will keep the overflow of you people busting down our doors to submit an article. So if you are going to submit, please have $200.00 [or like 2 billion pecos] and mail them to me at 31337 51st Ack North, Hicksville, Washington, 98187. Please mail your submition fees to me today!$!$%!@$#!@#$ If you wish to contribute art, you must have the following: 10 affiliations with groups that have acronyms the ability to do at least 20 pieces of art a day a lot of .GIF's for loOpy a whole shitload of blue velvet for me a lot of extra time on your hands [sure about... 99.999% of you have a lot of that on hand] your father must have a last name that starts with Z your mother must shave her mustache daily you have to have at least one pube. Seriously. If we need art, it will be asked for. So don't waist your time, as we don't need the art unless we ask for it. Since we do have a few people doing art for the mag, we pretty much have that area covered. All the stupid shit aside that makes me look like an illiterate asshole, just enjoy writing for Dogma if you wish to do it. If you are in two issues of Dogma, you can be a member?@#$?@#?$@#$ The only problem is, loOpy or Stigmata have not made a member listing, so I guess that is pretty pointless. -mistawho Dogma - phat like loOpy's mum - napalm death ------------ *** ------------ ircII script users polled on 12:31 am 1/4/96 eastern time. results: 692 PhoEniX 98 LiCe 71 TextBox 17 dEsPiTe 15 PurePak 7 SkulD 7 splitsURfer 7 K-Line 6 y0h0h0 5 FausT 5 Night 5 DJiNN 3 TextSoX 3 iRCUZi pause margin of error: roughly 1% note: this poll only counts SCRIPTS, not clients like mIRC or ircII. In acutality, i versioned with the polling script i wrote, about 2,000 users, yet most were using ircII [unix], mIRC [windows], or ircle [macintosh] a werd goes out to tris, for letting me use his pp-massver.irc script to aid me in the polls this month. -loOpy ------------ *** ------------ i look good in crotchless panties. ordered like 1000 dildos to some kids house Are you gunna interview me or do I have to go beat off on the beighbors car? what about Punky Brewster... she like... had a breast disorder and had to quit acting because she got like really really huge knockers. OH SHIT.. MY KARMA JUST RAN OVER YOUR DOGMA stig, call my board, my mom will validate you <__prime> loopy: for next dogma, put this quote in, fuqn dogma is leet fucking shit mang, i once ate my neighbor's shit teensex stats = 5% teens; 35% 12 and under; the rest 40 year old petafiles s0meone st0le my p3nis [pOd_!fuqall@van-as-10b06.direct.ca] yeah... the worst part is I suck at ascii I cant even make my script look good =] * cplusplus grumbles about ircOPs with dicks smaller than the O lo0py: they get a o line and then think their penis size just grew a inch.. fuck ------------ *** ------------ Welp this is the end of dogma #3, i hope you niggers enjoyed it because i put it together this month. wh0mp. Oh well if you have any comments questions email them to dogma@167.206.214.27 or look for me, loopy or mistawho on IRC. 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