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First up the rips consearning Hugi, Darkflare and DaVinci. Then we have the usual weekly mambojambo. Further more lots of mags are planned for release on April, thats Fleur#3, Shine#4, Armor of Gods#4 among others! As for demojournal it's same all over again. One more issue, one more editorial and one more week working my butt off for your unique pleasure. Feel happy and stuff! :) ps ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] demonews [:============================================================ :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - replay url is from now on www.shine.scene.org/replay/ There will be an Replay Bowling Championship soon. Results will be up on the homepage after we have had competed. shine#4 is coming out soon! *** News *** [ed: from seven] On csipd, the group SuccesS announced it will become active again. An almost empty hompage is at www.casena.net/~rolando (hmm, reminds me a bit of www.futurecrew.org :P) Orange Juice, Bomb, Nomad & Pulse France are organizing LTP3 (Lucky & Tigrou party 3). Website at http://ltp.planet-d.net fRoZaK have made a java demo, "dwarfs R nice" v1.02 (version numbers? Yes, must be a java demo :P). See http://members.xoom.com/frozak/page/java.htm (From www.quad98.net, forum-section) Magicboy/ex-Superstition changed his handle to Lexure. *** eon *** gardner has left flow ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] party on! [:=========================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - starts !=! ends !===! location !===! name !=========! contact !================ Feb 19 - Feb 21, 1999 France Volcanic '99 http://www.volcanicparty.com Feb 26 - Feb 28, 1998 Holland Ambience '99 http://overflow.hro.nl/ambience Feb 26 - Feb 27, 1999 Poland Analogue http://www.promail.pl/~analogue Feb 27 - Feb 28, 1999 Russia Bytefall '99 Mar 12 - Mar 14, 1999 Sweden The Feeling '99 http://www.thefeeling.net Mar 20 - Mar 21, 1999 Poland Astrosyn '99 gonzo@puma.tu.koszalin.pl =========! present time !====================================================== Mar 24 - Mar 28, 1999 Italy Trip '99 www.nigma.it/trip99 Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway The Gathering '99 Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany Mekka & Symp. 2k-1 http://ms.demo.org Apr 03 - Apr 05, 1999 France The Meeting 1999 http://www.fil.univ-lille1.fr/EVENEMENTS/coding/ Apr 09 - Apr 11, 1999 France Ukonx '99 Apr 16 - Apr 18, 1999 France Arf!Party http://arfparty.citeweb.net May 07 - May 09, 1999 France Keyboard '99 May 21 - May 23, 1999 Germany Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org May 29 - ??? ??, 1999 France Servo '99 info@mars-eyes.org Jun 04 - Jun 06, 1999 Holland Takeover '99 http://www.takeover.nl Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden Remedy '99 http://www.remedy.nu Jul 09 - Jul 11, 1999 Belgium Inscene '99 www.analogica.com/inscene Jul 09 - Jul 10, 1999 UK Dejavu '99 http://www.dejavu.org.uk Jul 19 - Jul 23, 1999 ? Density '99 www.gathering.org/kandu/ Jul ?? - Jul ??, 1999 Denmark Summer Encounter 99 Jul ?? - Jul ??, 1999 Hungary Rage-Scenest '99 Aug 06 - Aug 08, 1999 Finland Assembly '99 http://www.assembly.org Aug 20 - Aug 22, 1999 Hungary AntIQ'99 Aug 21 - Aug 24, 1999 France Slach 2 www.mygale.org/~myke666 Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 France RTS Party 2000-1 http://RTS-PartY.imag.fr Sep ?? - Sep ??, 1999 Sweden The Demoparty '99 http://www.demoparty.com Sep ?? - Sep ??, 1999 Portugal DemoPorto '99 demoporto99@hotmail.com ??? ?? - ??? ??, 1999 Germany Evoke '99 http://kaoz.org/evoke ??? ?? - ??? ??, 1999 YugoslaviaScene Strike 4 ??? ?? - ??? ??, 1999 France Slach 2 www.mygale.org/~myke666 Oct ?? - Oct ??, 1999 Norway distance '99 Nov ?? - Nov ??, 1999 Germany Cologne Conf. '99 www.academicus.de/cc98 ??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 USA Bang! 2000 www.scene.org/bang!/ ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] weekly [:============================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - This week! I have been mostly eating... silver-bullets =====! interview !============================================================= Session Start: Sat Mar 20 01:06:57 1999 *** superhoe has joined #demojournal Flam! <|ps|> hello! so who are you sir? Hello my name is dr. green thu.. erm. Erik Lyden prev. known aaaas Carebear/Orange or whatever they called me on the Amiga days ... <|ps|> and the question is... what do you do? Professional trickery.. music. And I can code a rotate-zoomer. <|ps|> wow!!!! rotozoomer!!!! :) Yes.. that is pretty impressive <|ps|> for how long are you around? For how long am I around.. as long as this interview's been complete, at least =D <|ps|> i mean in the scene! :P smart-ass heehhehe =).. Yeah, it depends.. I was AWARE of the scene in something like 1990-1991 I started making mods with Soundtracker (Amiga) on 1991 or so (forgive me if I remember these wrong, but at least they should be somewhat right) My first party was Assembly'93.. so let's say maybe I was in the scene 'officially' then.. <|ps|> so that makes... 6 years? :) damn your old! :P how old are you actually? Yeah, if you start counting from '93.. 6 years. Me? 1 month to 20 years DON'T BRAG ABOUT IT =).. i've always been the youngest in ALL the groups i've belonged in <|ps|> whizzkid! :P heh, I take that as a compliment.. <|ps|> so you where all happy the other day about getting a job or smtg... care to say something more about that? :) Well. That's not a big secret. I happen to be a ugly computer nerd (because I love playing games) So naturally my musician 'career' eventually leads me to making *tanttaramdamdaa* - surprisingly - to make game music You see, making the game music is just great. It's just a neverending pursuit of capturing the feeling that the game/situation requires It can be really challenging.. and therefore very enjoyable <|ps|> you getting well paid or thats internal erik lyden stuff? I'm afraid it's very much internal. I hate saying that, but it ain't actually up to my decision if to say it or not.. I mean, I hate saying 'it's internal' <|ps|> hehe :) so what are your plans scene wise? also internal affairs? :) My plans.. eh. I knew this would come.. well. If we are talking about my plans, I have some basic things i've been trying to do.. <|ps|> like... First of all, I still want to keep doing good demos, which I myself enjoy watching too. What are beautiful, well done And where is a joy to see your tune used well Just for a greeting, JMagic has done just that in Godog.. just mentioning because I think that is maybe the best demo i've ever participated in (imho) .. and, for the second thing <|ps|> how many demos have you participated in btw? I have no idea. I just noticed few days ago that I don't even have all the tunes i've done left.. Naah, there's not 4000+ There's something like.. I just don't know. Demos & intros.. maybe 10-20.. could be more I never actually kept track =) but, for the second thing.. The second thing is that.. I still try (besides my limited time) to do something with the 'new' groups as well. Because there is an upcoming talent. This attitude is mainly because of Blasphemy.. I'm not saying that Blasphemy necessarily are 'newcomers', but when I made music to 'Louis Lane'.. I actually did it blind-folded, I had never heard about the group. I just wanted to try And the demo turned out very good, I liked it myself very much, and it seems that so did the 'great public'.. hello boys =) (& girls) <|ps|> you know you are gonna get flooded with musical requests now don't you? :) Yes.. but as I said, I try to keep up with the 'new' talent. My time is limited, and I don't do many modules nowadays.. For the last year, every .XM i've made has been more or less 'tailored' for something.. made upon request. So if that tune request flood comes, let me then add something - If I refuse, that is mainly because I don't have time.. Inspiration is sometimes limited too. <|ps|> so what about your life? what else do you besides doing game-music? :) Me? Well.. my life is pretty basic. I study a bit (very little actually).. love my gf and in the summer, I let some steams out with my in-line skates. I drink coffee, I scratch my cat, I enjoy social moments with my friends. And I love Thousand Island salad dressing. <|ps|> salad dressing? :P Yeah.. it's that stuff when you slice some vegetables out and put that thing on top of 'em to make them taste better <|ps|> humm sounds interesting! :P Well.. what could I say =) <|ps|> what are your musician influences? games? :) I don't actually have a lot of influences. I've been asked this zillions of times and I'm always forced to answer: I don't know. If I must name some influences, I have to say something strange.. my influence is life in general <|ps|> like what? little things in life? For example, I drove a 150km+ from Helsinki to Tampere.. all the way 120km/h-180km/h.. then I came home <|ps|> yes... Blam. Then I made some really fast beats. And all the way I drove the car, I hummed some really fast basslines and banged the steering wheel with the beats.. That's a good example of my influences =).. <|ps|> hehehe and you didnt crashed? :P Nooo.. of course not. I never do =) (knock on the wood, yeah =D) <|ps|> :P [ed: dont try this at home kids!!!] do you listen to much tracked music by others? Hmm.. good question. In case no. Maybe I should.. I listen to others' tracks sometimes But very seldom I'm too lazy to download, and there's a way too much artists.. when I listen to others, I usually listen to old Amiga 4-ch's from my very own A1200 HD <|ps|> do you listen to commercial music? Commercial.. well, yeah.. I am a music freak after all.. and I do love listening to music. In case i'm one of those persons who listen to music all the time =) <|ps|> name some Hmm. I have a wide range.. if the music is well done, almost everything goes.. Jarre, Beck, Beastie Boys, A Tribe Called Quest (and all _good_ hip hop in general) 70's soul =) Orbital.. Fluke.. Chemical Brothers <|ps|> sounds like a regular musical junkie to me! :) Lots of trip hop in general. Yeah, I confess =) <|ps|> what about demo wise. you like viewing demos? what are your favorites? I don't have a too fast machine myself.. I seldom watch demos. But some rare pieces I do watch, and of course the ones i've participated in making. I can't say what is my favourite.. demos are so many as well <|ps|> cammon... say some names! :) Just the same thing as in the music.. I just can't say what is my favourite.. sorry, I must be a difficult person to interview =D Well. Coma has things that are original. Liked 'em for years - and worked with Virne as well, because of that Not just because i'm a member, Komplex is my all time favourite (especially from the Amiga) HiRMU: Muna is absolutely amazing <|ps|> ok, so lets go into pixels! you view some pics occasionally or also no? No.. never =) I can't recall if i've ever dl'd any pics since '97 =).. I enjoy my pixels mostly in the demos hehe I can't draw at all <|ps|> then what are you doing on #pixel all the time? Well, I guess 5% of the ppl on #pixel are actually graphicians.. heh.. I care about the people, not the profession. <|ps|> uhhhhhhhh are we getting filosophical? :) Of course not.. or who knows, maybe nothing is true, except the truth itself, which doesn't exist after all <|ps|> oh dear! lets change subject! :P Hihii <|ps|> arg! i dont know anything to ask. er... did you ever killed a living beeing? Never. And I never could. Except a mosquito. <|ps|> you murderer!!! It hit me first. Actually it stinged me first. It was self-defense <|ps|> save it for the judge! I did, they let me free. Self-defense, as I said. <|ps|> they bought that? idiots hah <|ps|> so whats the capital of madagascar anyway? Helsinki. <|ps|> wrong answer! how many ppl live in germany? Zillion. Move to history rather, i'm not good at this geog stuff =) <|ps|> what came first? the egg or the chicken? Cock. <|ps|> :P *hysterical laughter* <|ps|> hehe now i really dont know what to ask! Well, we can stop this then <|ps|> have anything to say on your behalf? :) You've asked all the important questions Who would want to know anything more.. Well. I love you all <|ps|> :) care to leave your mail for the musical requests flood? And for the unlimited promotion.. if anyone has a project - commercial (or not) - if it's potential and you need beats, contact me. I have motivation to do things.. elyden@level-d.com <|ps|> well, thank you for yor time and accept this offering as a sign of peace between our worlds oh mighty god of unravelled fluffyness .. i'll remember that phrase the rest of my life, you can be sure of that =D * |ps| looks around for distance! where the hell did he go? distance logged out appr. 35 minutes ago *hint hint* <|ps|> sorry... cant find distance for the sacrifice! :P guess you'll have to go for the normal useless little banner swapping instead! :P 'Where's my interview $$$$?' 'Where?' <|ps|> its in the mail! :P (yeah right...) Ok, you have 3 days.. then i'll come and steal your right kidney for resale [ed: not my kidney!!!] <|ps|> bahah! you dont know where i live or how i look like! :D are you sure enough.. ;-) <|ps|> yes im sur...e... well! its over! :) bye! [editor: better run before he finds out there is no money!] Session Close: Sat Mar 20 02:14:47 1999 =====! demo !================================================================== Jumpy! by Digital Murder (party-version) Found at www.scene.org 2nd place at the Volcanic 5 party System requirements: (Wow! A nfo-file WITH requirements listed! :)) Pentium 120, 32MB RAM, 11MB HD (!) Dos: Vesa2.0 or univbe. Win9x/NT: DirectX 2.0 (5.0 preferred) A Linux version is available but not included in the party-release. The demo: Like most of today's demos, this one has a lot of 3D. Aside from a few pictures, one could even say this is 100% 3D. Is this a bad thing? Well, it depends on the quality of the 3D, isn't it? And luckily, the quality of Jumpy!'s 3D IS above average. After a film-like intro (Group-presents-demo in space), we see a skysurfer falling from the sky. This is done _very_ well: the movements are realistic, the man is not composed of blocks or cylinders but is almost real, the textures are clearly larger then the average 256*256... Sometimes a TV-effect is used, looks like an interlaced videomode. I don't like those horizontal lines, but I've to admit it brings some variation, and it's used sparsely. In the next 3D scene the same man does a bungee jump from a mountain bridge. Whoaaa! Impressive! And with those short slogans ...( Temptation always finds a way! ) A very strange blur-zoom effect dives into a woman's eye, to the earth, to an island. (Hmm, OK. There ARE 2D-effects too.) I expected another 3D-scene, playing at an island, but we get some very good pictures instead. The greetings follow in several cool fonts, while we fly through some tunnels, ending in space. This part breaks with the atmosphere from the previous parts. And the next 3D part is even more different: a baby dancing at a stage with lots of mirrors around him. The last part can run as a stand-alone part of the demo. It features a drummer, playing a long drum solo, with lots of effects like vertical blur, inverted colors, the TV-effect ... By changing the drum-module, you can control the drummer. Somehow I feel this part is too long, and I think the drummer is less realistic then the other characters, but maybe that's because the camera moves much closer. The pictures are well done: a logo (visible for 1/2 second), some retouched photos (I think) of the skysurfer & the bungee-jumper, a very good grayscale face & leg, and a "cover" from some advert: a girl with angel's wings. The Music: Starting slowly during the intro, the music quickly changes to techno, lots of fast beats, but with enough melody to keep it good. Not much synchronizing, but it follows the speed of the demo perfectly. Apart from a short break during the pictures, the same style is kept till the drum-part. I don't really like the drum-solo, but as I'm no musician, I don't pretend to be able to do it better. And hey, it's perfectly synced to the movement of the drummer :) Worth the download: Yes. Especially if you like fast-paced demos, or when you want to see a drummer play your self-made drum-mod (XM, actually). The only serious drawback (IMHO) is the "feeling": the whole first part (until the tunnel) evokes a feeling of freedom, skysurfing & bungee-jumping, looking for kicks... The greeting-tunnel is already different, and the baby really doesn't fit with the rest. Another thing is the big size: 11 Meg is quite a lot. Tip: delete jumpywin.exe & midas.dll, it saves about a Meg. After all, this demo deserves full-screen, so who needs a window? Seven =====! intro !================================================================= Nocturnal: Mind over Matter (Hype '99 democateghory 3rd.) Yeah man belive me, only this intro is worth to download from this party, if you wanna see good design, wanna hear mindfucking music, and the usual code! I thought if Nocturnal than Lone Wolf made again some ambient stuff, he didn't so Xhale made asskickin basses, and rock my speakers to their end! Really good work, congratulation! And the colors and everything fit's - a little bad mooded intro, but i'am in bad mood too now, hehh. Other good production from the party the Replay demo. (as always. =) [hi baloo and goofy. =)] d-lee/exceed/haujobb =====! music !================================================================= 'Streets of Budapest' / Carlos jazz quartet Hey! I wanna present to you a great module in very rare style - free jazz. To be honest I've never heard such a unique tune on the scene. The best thing - samples. They are perfectly matched and sound wonderful. The piano gives character to this tune. The drums accompanying the piano are very interesting. Bass - this is beautiful too (played on contrabass). After some improvisation on piano, there is a main theme played on saxophone. In the background, you can also hear piano. (Eh... piano, piano... it is everywhere :)) Next thing... improvisation on the bass (a bit accompanied with drums). The main part - theme played by all instruments together. And that's the end. The tune isn't very long, so you surely won't get bored. I recommend this module to all people who appreciate a good jazz and improvisation. This is Tokyo Dawn Records guest release. You can get it from: EChO / Diffusion^Level-D =====! quote !================================================================= "The roof! The roof! The roof is on fire!" "Waterfire burn" - Bloodhound gang =====! question !============================================================== >question of the week: >name one demo starting by f From: Jontas flow by Craze From: "Will Be" Fulcrum (the) From: distance famous cyber people by pulse From: Los A demo starting with letter f is flow by recreation. 12th at assembly96 or something :) That was one of my first demos i were doing something. From: Stefaan Van Nieuwenhuyze A demo starting with F? heu.. Final reality? :) From: hugi@netway.at Fulcrum. From: "Jeff D." The Fulcrum From: Tom Motoyoshi Kalland "flash" by majic12 From: "Florian Winter" Fffake (c64). the kewlest demo ever, featuring the world's smallest scroller and a realtime raytraced voxel landscape (by night)...=) From: "Sacha Guyon" fulcrum / matrix What I won ? An Ati128 or a pentium III ? :) [editor: for being 11th? not even the black and white toaster man!] From: Matti Palosuo orange: four kings ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] commercial break! [:=================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - Get HUGI #14 at: http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ The world's most popular active diskmag. Freeware. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvia Krasnieski was born in San Francisco, California, as the daughter of a Polish father and a half-French, half-Italian mother. Right now she is 24 years old and one of the world's top models. "Actually I wanted to study art", she says. "But when I won the Supermodel contest some years ago, I decided I had no other choice than to start a professional model career. Now I am mainly a model but use as much of my spare time as possible to study." 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And whenever I was alone, I used to read my Hugi." =====! homepages !============================================================= Amber diskmag.......................http://amber.bti.pl/di_mag Arf!Studios..........................http://ArfStudios.cjb.net Astral..............................http://astral.scene-hu.com Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com AtomiK..............................http://www.extra.hu/atomik Bomb...................................http://bomb.citeweb.net BlaBla...............................http://blabla.citeweb.net Blacktron Music Production...........http://www.d-zign.com/bmp Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk Byterapers.....................http://www.byterapers.scene.org Carlos..............................http://www.nexus.hu/carlos Chrome..............................http://chrome.scene-hu.com #coders..................................http://coderz.cjb.net Comic Pirates.........................http://scene-central.com Dave.............................http://www.come.to/davecorner <*> DaVinci.................................http://davinci.ice.org Dawn3.....................................http://dawn3.cjb.net Demo fanclub...........http://www.radix.net/~brett/jer/fanclub Demojournal....................http://demojournal.planet-d.net Dreams2 CD.........................http://nl.scene.org/dreams2 Echo................................http://www.kki.net.pl/echo Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed Flan...................http://www.error-404.com/modsfiles/flan Fleur diskmag........................http://fleur.scene-hu.com Freax...................http://freax.scene-hu.com/mainmenu.htm <*> Gardner................................http://www.gardner.z.pl GFX Zone...............http://inf.ml.org/scenegfx/gfxzone.html Grabule........................http://members.xoom.com/grabule 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Pigforce.................................ftp://pigforce.ml.org Scene.org..................................ftp://ftp.scene.org SDC...................................ftp://sdc.wtm.tudelft.nl Skynet.stack.nl..........................ftp://skynet.stack.nl ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] articles [:============================================================ :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - RIPPED GRAPHICS IN HUGI #14: THE TRUE STORY ÄÄÄ( Adok/Hugi )ÄÄÄ Since I get a lot of spam via e-mail, I am accustomed to delete every mail looking like spam immediately. It was only pure chance that I did not delete the mail I got from the webmaster of a porn-site on Sunday, March 14th. The subject caught my attention. It was: "Stolen Artwork". Unbelievable! What does a porn-site have to do with artwork? I began to read. "Some of my artwork was stolen and used in your issue #14. Can you please direct me to the appropriate person that can rectify this problem? I want my artwork REMOVED from your e-mag." Was that a new kind of spam? Or was it meant seriously? How did an ominous porn-site-webmaster get Hugi? What artwork could be ripped from a porn-site? We have never published any porn-picture in Hugi. In order to ensure that the mail was serious, I replied with the following: "Of course [I will remove the stolen 'artwork']. But you have to tell me who you are and what exact 'artwork' you mean. How can you prove that you are its creator? As soon as I have got your answer, I will contact the author immediately." On the next day I got the reply. It turned out that the webmaster of the ominous porn site was DaVinci of iCE. Everyone who has some knowledge of the art-scene knows what iCE is. It is a huge art-group. DaVinci, one of many members, creates pixel graphics using Photoshop. My interest was arisen. I took an extensive look at his personal homepage and realized that the logo on the navigation page was quite similar to the winning picture in the Hugi Logo Competition by DARKflare/ActiveFuel. The border was identical, and the background of DARKflare's picture was an image in the "Lightening Tutorial" at DaVinci's homepage. For me, there was no doubt that the roots of the contest-winning picture were here. On his "Rip-Off" page, DaVinci showed a screenshot of DARKflare's picture. The text below said: "This piece of stolen artwork is the winning entry for a splash screen contest for HUGI DISK MEGA ZINE. HUGI14. FEB99 http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ Despite my begging and pleading, the thief stole my DaVinci logo from this site, chopped out the inside, used the lightening images from my lightening tutorial (he didn't even make his own), then he ripped off the name bar from my Fravia logo to put the name 'HUGI disk magazine' on. The artist credited for this mess is Darkflare of ActiveFuel. He even signed his name on the lower left corner. [...] If you're wondering why I'm uptight about my artwork, here is the reason why." The next step for me to do was to contact DARKflare and inform him on the matter. I could not believe anyone would risk sending stolen graphics to Hugi, as our Legal Stuff section clearly states that all contributions "have to be free of third-party-rights". A few hours later I got DARKflare's answer, which he had also sent to DaVinci. He showed great concern. He admitted not having made the picture all by himself but having used some of DaVinci's images. However, he said that he had been given permission to use the graphics by a "fake DaVinci". Since it was now obvious that this picture had violated third-party-rights, I disqualified it from the logo competition and removed it from Hugi. In this way the other places moved up by one. Luminos/MAC was now the true winner of the competition. His picture was used as the closing picture in the new version of Hugi #14. I uploaded Hugi #14 v1.1 on March 17th and announced it in several newsgroups. At this occasion I want to appeal to everyone once again that every contribution to Hugi has to be free of third-party-rights. This spares us all a lot of trouble and work. With this, I want to officially apologize to DaVinci. - adok^hugi - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DaVinci's reply [editor: i contacted davinci asking if he had anything to say... he has! :) and here it is...] ps: thanks for your note. I guess what I'd like to say is that I'm happy to have received cooperation from both adok and the group ActiveFuel. Both were embarassed by this incident, and the whole thing is most unfortunate. What's really a shame is that Darkflare does not have the courage to confess to stealing my work, but instead says he received permission from "a fake DaVinci". That's ridiculous because he knows me, knows that I'm in #phrozencrew on Efnet, and knows where my site is and how to contact me. Anyway, he must now suffer the penalty for his actions, and his name is forever ruined in the art scene community. He has proven to be untrustworthy, a thief, and a liar. In closing I would like to thank the thousands of visitors to my site who know my work and report back to me when they see it used without my permission. If someone rips me, they will get caught. It's not a question of IF, but a question of WHEN. We should all work together and learn from each other instead of ripping each other's work. It is in the spirit of fellowship and of sharing our techniques that we all grow and improve together. Best regards, DaVinci [iCE / Phrozen Crew] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - About ActiveFuel Well, i'm a member of ActiveFuel (sort of) and i would just like to add that ActiveFuel are now dead (sort of) and new group with some members of the ActiveFuel is now born called Frequency (i think). ps - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: MAZ: TW98 voting / 2800$ prices! Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:31:35 +0100 From: maz Hi there! Good news, MAZ proudly presents: ! Vote for your favourite song @ tracked worx '98 ! There's a price-pool of stuff worth 500$ for the voters (an original GUS PnP with Interwave for instance) and prices worth 2300 US$ for the three winning artists/groups, sponsored by TerraTec, RME Intelligent Audio Solutions and by the german Hoontech distributor RIDI multimedia. Since I saw damn lame people at demo parties who personally tried to convince all people they know to vote for their crap (in this case) instead of respecting the work of the other crews as well as they want to see the own work respected: Please support good artists who actually DESERVE to get the prices in your opinion! Don't vote for the lamest song because you think this will help pushing your own one to top - you waste the power of your vote. Uhh, another "lame people" thing: Users have reported two songs of the TW98 CD, which are an obvious 99% rip of another song (which I didn't know, shame on me), in both cases the songtext clearly claims it's an own creation. I will release a "list" with the names of songs and author names in the next days at my NEWS-page. Of course those guys will be happily disqualified from voting and winning. If you think you could be one of those two guys, just contact me BEFORE I put your name online. OK, the voting sheet and pics/descriptions of all prices are online at http://www.maz-sound.com/vote/ or for the europeans at http://www.fh-zwickau.de/~maz/vote/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- WWW : http://www.maz-sound.com eMail : maz@fh-zwickau.de MAZ ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] end [:================================================================= :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - You can download all previous issues of demojournal at these fine ftp domains: DC-1's (hungary)...ftp://demo.cat.hu/scene/DiskMag/DemoJournal Salami's (Germany)......ftp://ftp.foxfiber.net/pub/demojournal Amber (Poland)..ftp://amber.bti.pl/pub/scene/mags/demo_journal Or read them online at DemoJournal's homepage: http://demojournal.planet-d.net Homepage also contains constantly updated links (as seen on list) and some articles along with some interviews and other information. 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