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I would appreciate it even. I'm only putting the pieces together. It's our scene! let's make things happen... I don't personally like this issue. Just the pulse bomb as news. Little tribute to The Black Lotus aswell. Number #10 brought nothing new... Just a number! Like 3.1415962353... I don't care. No one cares on what i care or not and we all die happy ever after! Life sukz and then you die! -------------- ------| 2.Demonews |----------------------------------------------------------- -------------- BIG HEADLINE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING, ANNOUNCING MAJOR NEWS! [taken from www.quad98.net] From: UNREAL - SCORPIK - CAMEL we would like to inform that: - falcon, keyg, yoghurt, spy, lucky, fame have been REMOVED from Pulse - lazur has been kicked out from Pulse - only remaining members are Unreal, Scorpik and Camel. we are planning to make one more demo and then leave Pulse for good. Thanks for all the fun, it sure was nice. unreal + scorpik + camel [BOOM! Read on...] From: unreal oh yeah, mind you, those were changes about PULSE.PL pulse.fr, pulse.no, pulse.se, pulse.fi stay the way they were Unril [Oh! Well... Reactions...] From: Skin i'm confused ? Lazur kicked ? Wanna have him! :-) [...] From: a0a and Falcon!.. man.. are you out of your mind ? geez.. [Little humour from the man] From: unreal "23 September [No news] Is the scene really dying ? Why isn't their some news by some group ?" well, I hope the PULSE news were enough ? ;))) [I bet no one will complain about lack of news from groups! EVER!] From: Sarix Email of lazur is ? :))))))))))))))))) you can never have enough gfx duwdes [End of www.quad98.net forum log] What can i say... I guess it was because of innactivity! Thanks to Radi/INTerror for telling me so fast! Psychic Symphony ------------------------- ------| 3.Thought of the week |------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- #pixel... Not just a channel! A life style. --------------- ------| 4.Party on! |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Starts: Ends: Country: Name: Contact: Oct 02 - Oct 05, 1998 Norway The Convention 1998 www.convention.com Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1998 Hungary CaCHe II '98 www.datanet.hu/cache98 Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1998 Sweden evroparti '98 http://come.to/evroparti (x) It's just an X. Don't think so hard about it... Oct 28 - Oct 31, 1998 Sweden Compusphere X http://www.compusphere.org Oct 29 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden DreamHack '98 http://www.dreamhack.org Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden ACG-Hack X http://hack.amiga-cg.se < ? canceled ? > Hungary ReFLeX '98 http://www.nexus.hu/slsp Nov 07 - Nov 08, 1998 Poland Satellite '98 madbart@jormas.com Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Germany Dialogos '98 http://www.kassablanca.de/dialogos98 Dec 1998 Israel Movement '98 Dec 12 - Dec 14, 1998 Slovenia Abort '98 (info file at ftp.scene.org) Dec 18 - Dec 20, 1998 Hungary JuMPer '98 http://scene-hu.com/~jumper Dec 19 - Dec 20, 1998 Romania Dracula '98 Dec 25 - Dec 27, 1998 Argentina The Flash '98 theflashparty.home.ml.org Dec 27 - Dec 29, 1998 Denmark The Party 1998 http://www.theparty.dk Mar 1999 Italy Trip 99 Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway The Gathering '99 Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany Mekka & Symp. 2k-1 http://ms.demo.org May 29 - May 30, 1999 Germany Komso/Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden Remedy '99 http://www.remedy.nu Jul 1999 Belgium Inscene '99 http://Inscene99.home.ml.org Thanks fly to Adok/Hugi for letting me know on some info! --------------------------- ------| 5.Interview of the week |---------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Nix was kind enough to reply to my e-mail questions within one hour. (guess which time and day of the week it was?) :P >1. please tell us your name, date of birth and alien origins... Hi, my real name is Jurjen Katsman, most sceners will probably know me better as Nix from The Black Lotus. I was born 1st of June in 1978, somewhere in a place called Utrecht, in that highly popular country called Holland, famous for it's wonderful substances :) Currently I'm living in the United Kingdom, in the suburbs of London. >2. please state current scene ocupation! I tend to think of myself as a coder, but most of my scene activities are currently reduced to merely chatting around on irc, and providing TBL with some well needed PR. Sometimes I however still do some coding, and I'm involved with a little library for easy Win32 demo programming, and still intent to create one more demo. >3. wow! u started tbl or joined? tell us something about your old days! :) Nope, I didn't found TBL, far from, TBL was founded by Rubberduc ages ago, also some of the more well known amiga members have been in the group for a very long time, but TBL didn't really get started on PC until most of the members of the PC demogroup Logic Design joined up during autumn 1996, with that merge Jace, Balance, me, and several other people came to TBL, and after a failed attempt at making a demo for TP6 the first TBL PC demo was released at TG97. Before I had joined up with Logic Design I was in the group Massive, which was basically me with some guys from school. We made several demos, including one with the infamous 'nix-shading', but the group fell apart end of 1995, which is when I joined Logic Design, which in the end led me to where I now am in TBL. >4. what was the first party u attended? u recall? Yep, I do. The first party I went to was the Bizarre 94 in Holland, probably one of the worst parties ever held, but it was the first decent party ever in Holland, and what got me started in the scene. >5. what about that old disagreement with jace... u had enough about that >or care to go over it again? Hmm, somehow some people seem to think me and Jace have this huge disagreements, but in reality it's not as bad as it might seem. We do have a very different attitude towards demos and towards the scene as a whole, but usually we can keep things quitte peacefull :) >6. tell us about near future projects Frankly, I don't know, we planned demos for TG98, planned a demo for ASM98, and none of that ever happened. So yeah, probably not much of a surpise that we are again planning one for TP8, but chances are probably slim that it will ever be released. I personally don't think we should ever release another intro, but several other members disagree with me, so you might very well see another intro sometime as well. Lots of people are trying to pressure us into releasing new things, but I personally don't think we should release anything we are not reasonably satisfied with, or atleast is truly better as anything we did before, or preferably better as anyone ever did before. Also we get critisised a lot for releasing things that are very similar to our previous releases, which is another reason why I don't just want to rebuild Stash into a new intro. Even if it might be able to win a party. Atleast I want to make something that I personally think is reasonably new. >7. you heard about pulse.pl clean up? only scorpik+unreal+camel remain... >what do you think about that? It quitte surprised me, but on the other hand, it doesn't really change much, they where pretty much the only active members. What I heard is that they will actually start a new group, together with some other people, because they don't want to be associated with Pulse anymore, but I doubt that would work for them, people will always look at them as Pulse, atleast I will. They have been ruling the PC scene for the last year, and nobody will just forget that. >8. thx for your time indeed! :) any hi's to shout out? Noone in particular :) Just a big thanks to everyone who has some respect for the people producing the demos, and a big fuck off to all the critics who keep complaining about everything, and never actually do anything themselves. Jurjen Katsman Nix / The Black Lotus nix@tbl.org http://www.tbl.org ---------------------- ------| 6.Demo of the week |--------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- 'Astral Blur' by The Black Lotus Code: Nix, Jace, Balance Music: Wox Graphics: Danny, Louie and Lowlife Second place at The Gathering 97. Love the introduction on this one. The rest kind of just goes with flow... As far as the code is concearned, just brilliant. Good 3D engine. Great tunnels. Nice metaballs. Also remark to the win32 version arranged by Balance and Nix. Very good! Music is just very moody. Which is good! From first second to the last it keeps the same flavour. Very nice syncing with the credits and display of the awesome pictures. WOW! 3 AWESOME pictures just in 1 demo! Hurray for Lowlife, Danny and Louie. 'Angelic Particles' by Danny and Louie won the picture compo and with full merit indeed. The whole picture looks so real... The other pictures in the demo are also awesome but not as awesome as that one! Very nice design which tops it over and makes this one a demo for posterity! The Black Lotus PC at it's best! Psychic Symphony ----------------------- ------| 7.Intro of the week |-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- 'Stash' by The Black Lotus Code: Nix, Jace and Balance Music: Probe Graphics: Danny and Sjaak/Treepan Remember the line i wrote above? 'The Black Lotus at it's best!'? I was lying... features: 3,5Mb fullcolor graphics 4Mb music (16bit/44Khz sampling) stashing-yar-brainz-to-the-max 'I though you said it was the intro of the week...' IT IS... Not much more needed to say... Sequel to Jizz. Which was also a 64k intro with similar features released at The Party 97... Stash won Wired 97 intro compo. Check out the win32 version of both this wonders if you don't own a GUS and want to hear the sound... Psychic Symphony --------------------- ------| 8.MOD of the week |---------------------------------------------------- --------------------- 'Lia' by Muffler/Haujobb When i saw the first haujobb stuff on pc, i felt some kind of happiness, and i knew, that the musician was a genius. Well, in my opinion muffler is the man who gives the style to the hjb stuff with his unique music. Teo/Magnesium told me, that he is the brother of heatbeat, so i think the talent is in the family :) Well, lets speak about Lia, what he released at Cache98. I think this is the first really good drum and bass track on pc. 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Support this great zine and contact Adok at: hugi@netway.at For more information, check out http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ Estimated RELEASEDATE of HUGI #13: November or December 1998 The exact releasedate depends on how many articles we will get within a short time, so if you want Hugi to come out soon, you know what to do! ( always good for ..... ) a laugh!! _ : o_o : ( n_______n (_| = / ___ \ = = ---- |________ }_____ ( (_u_) ) ((O) \\. / \_______/ \ =(_O) | / \ sT(_O)|___ [ P A i N ] . da swiss diskmag is looking for your articles ! . send everything to : pain@space.ch . check it out on the www ! . http://www.space.ch/scene/pain Blasphemy's homepage: www.blasphemy.dk ------------------------ ------| 10.Quote of the week |------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ 'new motto: morals, i ain't have one.' Fear/The Black Lotus PS - On REAL english that means he's an immoral guy! What else is new? ------------- ------| 11.Charts |------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- Vote for the latest kickass production! Stuff you have just seen or heard that is really cool! Some people keep on voting for the best ever even if there are new awesome productions! Just answer back something like: pulse/shad/paper/unreal/falcon/made Thank you in advance! BTW >,< and = symbols stand for increase, decrease and same change in overall status, nothing to do with current points! N means it's a new entry. Group: Pulse.................................. (14) = CNCD................................... (5) > Purple................................. (4) < Doomsday............................... (2) = Blasphemy.............................. (2) = Orange................................. (2) > Quad................................... (1) < Complex................................ (1) < Halcyon................................ (1) = FiT.................................... (1) = Knights................................ (1) = Nerve Axis............................. (1) = Cocoon................................. (1) = Green.................................. (1) = Realtech VR............................ (1) = Mandula................................ (1) = KFMF................................... (1) = Demo: Shad....................Cocoon^Syndrome (6) = Hyperventilation.............Byterapers (3) = The Fulcrum......................Matrix (3) = Dis.............................Mandula (3) > 73ms..............................Pulse (3) > Sexadelic....................Byterapers (2) < Stigma.........................Doomsday (2) < Boost: vivid part 2............Doomsday (2) < Tribes............................Pulse (1) < Saint...........................Halcyon (1) < Automaton Flavour..............Hellcore (1) < Tour..............................Pulse (1) < Styler 2............................... (1) < Anataus 5 (linux)...................FiT (1) < Rise...................TRSI^Mellowchips (1) < Squeeed...........................Pulse (1) < Stars: Wonders of the world.......NoooN (1) < Louis Lane....................Blasphemy (1) = Inside.............................CNCD (1) N RipRap...........................Exceed (1) N Iceberg........................Suburban (1) N Intro: Paper........................statix+vic (8) = Pager 11..........................Fudge (6) = Sin(x)...........................Dawn 3 (3) = Stash...................The Black Lotus (2) = Mesha.............................Rhyme (2) = Clone meets clone..................ACME (2) = Deesbab..........................Orange (2) > Kill the clone....................Fudge (2) > Jizz....................The Black Lotus (1) < Wolfenstein 3D.................Pointman (1) < Go pete go............................. (1) < Sea robot of love................Orange (1) < Typhoid................................ (1) = Pina................................... (1) N Code: Unreal....................,..CNCD^Pulse (9) = Mr.Sex.......................Byterapers (6) = Echo..............................Fudge (4) > Mrock..........................Hellcore (3) < Statix.........................Lionhead (3) < Virne..............................COMA (3) > Buckshag...................Superstition (2) < Plash.....................Nothing^Azure (2) < Rod.............................Mandula (2) < Picard............................Rhyme (2) > Skal...............................Bomb (1) < Marq................................FiT (1) < Hoplite..........................Orange (1) N Music: Falcon............................Pulse (6) = Dune (BrothomStates).............Orange (5) = Mindwalker.....................Suburban (3) = Groo...............................CNCD (2) = CareBear...............Orange & Komplex (2) = Revisq............................Monar (2) = Radix............................Groove (2) > Muffler.........................Haujobb (2) N Bartesek............................... (1) < Shad................................... (1) < Smash................Beam^Noise^Nothing (1) < Xafax.................................. (1) < Croaker...........................TPOLM (1) < md................................TPOLM (1) < Zenial........................Hypnotize (1) < Keith303.................Radical Rythms (1) < Vic................................ACME (1) < Xerxes.........................Night 55 (1) < Masterboy.............................. (1) N Elwood................................. (1) N Graphics: Made...............................Bomb (10) = Lazur.............................Pulse (5) = Ra................................NoooN (5) = Louie...................The Black Lotus (3) = Vizualize.........................Pulse (3) > Cereal........................Ooze labs (2) > Sunday..........................Nothing (2) < Kobold................................. (2) < Pike................................... (1) < Iceball................................ (1) < Acryl...........................Scoopex (1) < Grass.........................Hypnotize (1) < Peachy..........................Haujobb (1) < Orbital................................ (1) = Cougar................................. (1) = Wain..............................Jello (1) = ----------------- ------| 12.Demoscener |-------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- This is supposed to be a list of all currently active demosceners! Warn if there is something wrong or missing! PLEASE! Don't hesitate for one second to send me listings of people who are active and not in here... This list is far from complete! Name: Country: What: Group: 216..............fi...........Code...............MFX Aap..............nl...........Gfx................ACME Abyss............fi..............................Future Crew Access...........be..............................Pulpe Acryl............de...........Gfx^Music..........Scoopex Action........................Code...............Virtual Visions Adok.............at...........Editor.............Hugi aGi..............pl...........Gfx................INTerror Alpha............pl...........Ascii^Coder........ByteWay Andr0meda........be...........Code^Music.........Green Angel............pl...........Gfx................Tatanka Antony...........fr...........Gfx................Pulse Aquafresh........uk...........Music..............Dolphin Aragorn.......................Code...............Chalice Arson............pl...........Music..............ByteWay^Cryogen^Anxiety Asphyx...........fr...........Gfx................Vision Assassin.........fi...........Swapper............Trauma Assign...........de...........Music..............Ethos9^Tokyo Dawn Astute...........fi...........Code...............Flo^Radio Atom.............pl...........Swapper............Platoon Aurelius.........de...........Code...............Matrix Azure............sl...........Gfx................Dilemma^Byteway A-Move...........de...........Music..............Amable^Tokyo Dawn Baloo............sw...........Gfx................Blocc Balrog........................Music..............KFMF Banshik..........pl...........Code^Gfx...........ByteWay Barbatron........sw...........Code...............Syntax Terror Barbecue.........dk...........Code...............Purple Barog............................................ Baxter...........be...........Editor^Code^Music..Green Behemot..........pl...........Organizer..........ByteWay Binar............pl...........Swapper^Ascii......Korozone^Chloride^VP Bitcoder.........pt...........Code...............Radioactive Design Blade............sp..............................The Utopians^Los Centoros Bonnie...........fr...........Gfx................HCL Borlot...........pl...........Code...............Majorca Team Brain Power......pt...........Code...............Dawn 3 Brainsaw.........nl..............................SuccesS Brix.............hu...........Code...............Dilemma Byter............dn...........3D^Gfx.............Blasphemy Carebear.........fi...........Music..............Orange Carlos...........hu...........Music..............Breeze^Mandula Case.............pl...........Swapper............Revelation^Fuse Cheetah..........................................Ephidrena Clef.............au...........Music.............. Cliffhanger...................Code............... Clifford M.......pl...........Gfx................ExMortis^MFX Core-nick........pl...........Music..............Tatanka Corona...........be...........Code...............Green CpC..............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs Cremax...........pt...........Code...............Nothing Croaker..........fi...........Code^Music.........TPOLM Crossbone........de...........Code...............Suburban Creations !Cube............fi...........Music^Gfx^Code.....Trauma Cyberfish........no...........Code...............The Lost Souls Cyclops..........be...........Gfx................Fuel^Quad Cyg..............fr...........Code...............BlaBla Dake.............ch...........Code...............Calodox Damaq............fi...........Gfx................Doomsday Damien...........be..............................Imphobia Danube...........fr...........Gfx................HCL Darkflare........pt...........Gfx................ActiveFuel Darkness.........be...........Editor.............Imphobia Dave.............sp...........Code...............Phymosys Dave.............pl...........Music..............Haujobb Deansdale........hu...........Music..............Exceed Delirium.........pt...........Music..............ActiveFuel Der Punkt........sk...........Gfx................Dolphin Deyi.............be...........Code...............Itsari Diabolo..........fr...........Code...............HCL Digisnap.........de...........Code...............Matrix Distance.........fi...........Music..............TPOLM^monotonik^lackluster Dixan............fi...........Music..............Chalice Dizzy............ch...........Music.............. Djamm............fr...........Music..............Nomad^Bomb^Ribbon D-lee............hu..............................Exceed Doctor_Q.........pl...........Swapper............ByteWay^DRB^TPB Dominei..........no...........Music..............Dolphin^INF DreamDancer......de...........Gfx^Swapper........Nwo Wolfpack^Role Dreamer..........fi...........Music..............Sublogic Dreyer...........dk...........Music..............Blasphemy Dune.............fi...........Music..............Orange Echo.............dk...........Code...............Fudge Echo.............pl...........Music..............Diffusion Eclipse..........fr...........Code^Editor........Knights^Lichty's Concept Ellyn............pl...........Gfx................Ex-Mortis^MFX Euphoria.........au...........Gfx................f00d Excel............fi...........Gfx................Trauma Ez...............it...........Music..............Deathstar Ezah.............hu...........Gfx^Editor.........Dilemma Fatality.........fi...........Music..............Flo Fear.............fi...........Code...............The Black Lotus^Dolphin Filozof..........pl...........Ascii..............Konzept Fitzroy..........pl...........Ascii..............Enenzi^The Loop Flan.............fr...........Gfx................ Flex.............sw...........Code...............Blocc Fndr.............sw...........Gfx^Code........... Frame............sw...........Gfx................C-lous Fred.............ch...........Editor.............Calodox Fred.............pl...........Gfx................INTerror Fred.............pl...........Swapper............Exodus^Samar Fugaz............pl...........Coder^Music........ByteWay Gandalf..........fr..............................Pulse Ganja Man........uk...........Music..............LoK Garfield.........pl...........Editor.............Pengo^IPC^LO 2+7 Garfield.........pt...........Music^Code.........Radioactive Design G-day............nl...........Music..............Quad Goblin...........au...........Code...............Xtatic Gongo............be...........Code...............Green Goofy............sw...........Editor.............Replay Gooroo...........ca...........Code...............KFMF Graff............pl...........Music..............Tatanka Greenpix7........ru...........Gfx................Universe gTg..............pl...........Code...............Tatanka Guille...........fr...........Code...............Cocoon Gyr..............au...........Code...............f00d Hager............hu...........Swapper............Profuse Harlequin........nl...........Gfx^Music..........SuccesS Hate.............pl...........Swapper^Editor.....Prism^Core^Scream HeY..............pl...........Code^Editor........Tatanka Hoplite..........fi...........Code...............Orange Hunz.............au...........Music..............Five Musicians Hyde.............pl...........Music..............ByteWay Hyp-X............hu...........Code...............Mandula Idiotboy.........us...........Code...............Plastik Productions^Evolve Incubus..........pl...........Code...............Prism Infinite Reboot..be...........Code...............Fuel Imode............hawaii.......Music..............Exceed^Sound Devotion Inopia...........................................Quad Jace.............nl...........Code...............The Black Lotus Java.............sw...........Gfx................Cryonics Jax..............pl...........Music..............Korozone Jim Goer.........pl...........Code...............Grinders Kal..............hu...........Gfx................Astroidea Kal-Min-Do.......fr...........Music..............HCL Keith303.........de...........Code...............Radical Rhythms^Tokyo Dawn KeyG.............pl...........Music..............Pulse Khamoon..........pl...........Code...............ByteWay^Tube27 Kidlove..........de...........Gfx................Haujobb Kneebitter.......us...........Code...............Threesome Koan.............pl...........Code...............Giraffe Kombat...........il...........Code...............Immortals Kravitz..........fi...........Code...............Sublogic Kurt.............be...........Code...............Green Lando............pl...........Swapper............Konzept Lazur............pl...........Gfx................Pulse Lebeau/Legend....fi...........Music..............CNCD Legend...........au...........Music..............The Vault Lexus............pl...........Editor.............Enenzi Liam The Lemming.uk...........Music..............KFMF Lucky............pl...........Gfx................Pulse^Poison Luk..............pl...........Music..............Procreation Made.............fr...........Gfx................Bomb Maelcom..........us...........Music..............KFMF Magnesium........au...........Code^Music.........LaTeX Mandrixx.........fr...........Code............... Marq..........................Code...............FiT Marquis..........de...........Music^Swapper......Platoon Marvel...........fi...........Gfx................Future Crew Mash.............pl...........Code...............ByteWay Masterboy........il...........Code............... Max..............pl...........Gfx................Defect^Cryogen Melcom...........de...........Music^Code......... Mellow-D.........be^fi........Music..............TPOLM^Five Musicians Melwyn...........fi...........Music..............Acid Rain Mentz............de...........Music..............LoK^Tokyo Dawn Mercure..........fr.............................. Micron...........fi..............................Byterapers Inc. Mike.............fi...........Gfx................Byterapers Inc. Mindwalker.......pt...........Music..............Suburban Creations Misha............pl...........Gfx^Editor.........Tatanka^Defect^Nothing Miss Saigon......us^fi........Music..............Threesome Mosh.............fi...........Music..............Forsaken Morphine.........dn...........Music..............Blasphemy Mov..............fi..............................Radio MRI..............fi...........Code...............Doomsday Mr.Sex...........fi...........Code...............Byterapers Inc. Mr.Z.............hu...........Code...............Astroidea Myrel............hu...........Gfx................Astroidea Mystical......................Music..............Purple MZ...............au.............................. NamNam...........sw...........Gfx................Blocc Nap..............hu...........Code...............Dilemma Neek.............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs Nemesis1......................Music.............. Nemesulku........fi...........Gfx................Acid Rain Nephoo...........pl...........Code...............Samar PC^Evolve Nero.............de...........Gfx................Matrix Nik..............be...........Gfx................Green Nitro............fi...........Music..............Trauma Nix...........................Code...............The Black Lotus Nns..............hu...........Code...............Exceed Nobody...........fi...........Music..............Wild Light Nytrik...........fr...........Gfx................ByteWay^Fuel^Cocoon Onyx.............us...........Code...............Dolphin Optic............no...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn^TRSI Orome............no...........Gfx................Astroidea Paavi............fi..............................iSO Pancho...........pl...........Gfx................Platoon^IPC Paniq............de...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn Particle......................Gfx................ Patapom..........fr...........Code...............Bomb Peachy........................Gfx................Haujobb Pearl Hunter.....................................The Utopians Picard...........hu...........Code...............Rhyme Pitbull..........de...........Code...............Imphobia Pixel............fi...........Gfx................Future Crew PL...............be...........Gfx................Imphobia Plash.........................Code...............Nothing^Azure Probe............sw...........Music..............The Black Lotus^VD Programmed.......pt...........Code...............ActiveFuel Programmer.......ru...........Code^Editor........Universe Psychic Symphony.pt...........Code...............Evolve^The Utopians^ActiveFuel Pyshtoff.........pl...........Code...............Tatanka Quartz...........fi...........Code...............Chalice Quasar...........be...........Code...............Green Quaz.............fi...........Music..............Flo^pWp Raiden...........pl...........Music..............Aural Planet Radi.............pl...........Music^FTP..........INTerror Radix.........................Music..............Groove Rascy............hu...........Modeller...........Dilemma Rastan...........pl...........Code...............ByteWay^Amnesty React............hu...........Code...............Exceed Rents............pt...........Gfx................Dawn 3 Reptile..........hu...........Music..............Astroidea Rod..............hu...........Code...............Mandula Rodex............fi...........Code............... Rommel...........no...........Swapper............Revelation Saffron..........fi...........Gfx................The Black Lotus^Dolphin Sagacity.........nl...........Code...............Quad Salami...........de...........Code...............Nothing SamSam...........................................Quad Sandworm.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe Sarix............nl..............................Quad Scorpio..........pt...........Code............... Scorpik..........pl...........Music..............Pulse Screamager.......lu^uk........Music..............KFMF Sed..............hu...........Music..............Dilemma Shade............hu...........Music..............Dilemma Sharon...........de...........Code...............Matrix Shaman...........hu...........Music^Ansi.........Exceed Shameless........dk...........Code...............Blasphemy Shiva............de...........Code...............Kolor Shock............au...........Code...............Xtatic^Dimension^Ramjam^Evolve Shodan...........fr..............................Skytech Crew^Arf!Studios Skal.............fr...........Code...............Bomb Skin.............................................Quad Skrig............dk...........Gfx................Prone Sky..............de...........Gfx................Dolphin^Ethos9 Skyphos..........de...........Music..............Matrix Simon King!......pl...........Ascii..............Procreation^Fuse Sly Spy..........hu...........Music..............United Force^Capan¤a Slyde............dk...........Code...............Blasphemy Snowman..........us..............................Hornet Smash............uk...........Music..............Nothing Sol..............fi...........Code...............Trauma Soulless.........pl...........Gfx................Norferin Spansh...........uk.............................. Spector..........fi...........Code...............Trauma Spectre..........tu...........Code...............Flare Stallion.........de...........Gfx................Absence^Dolphin Steffo...........sw...........Music..............Cryonics Stein............us..............................Night 55 Sub-Seru.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe Sulphurik........pt...........Code............... Sunday........................Gfx................Nothing Szum.............pl...........Editor.............Cryogen Tapeworm.........fi...........Code...............Acid Rain Tbf..............fr...........Swapper............HCL Teque............fi...........Music..............Trauma Thor.............sw...........Gfx................TPOLM^Dolphin Thorin...........fr..............................Melon Dezign Thorsten.........dk...........Gfx^Music..........Purple TJ...............sw..............................Cryonics Tmk..............nw^jp........Gfx^Code...........INF^Dolphin Tonic............fi...........Gfx^Code...........Trauma Traymuss.........pl...........Music..............Giraffe Tremens..........pl...........Raytracer..........ByteWay Tremor...........fi...........Code...............Trauma Tristan..........il...........Music.............. Trixter..........us...........Code...............Hornet Ts...............hawaii.......Gfx^Ansi...........Exceed TSC..............hu...........Code...............Astroidea Tudor.........................Gfx................The Black Lotus TuO..............fr...........Code...............Skytech Team Ubbe.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics Ultra Brain......be...........Code...............Green Unreal...........pl...........Code...............Pulse^CNCD Vain.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics Vampire..........dk..............................Blasphemy Vastator.........us...........Code...............NetGeneration Vector...........us...........Code...............Vertigo Vic..............nl...........Music..............ACME Vim!.............uk...........Music..............Mono Vipa.............dk...........Code...............Purple Virne............fi...........Code...............COMA Viznut...........fi...........Code^Music^Gfx.....pWp Void.............fi...........Code...............Trauma Warpig...........hu...........Gfx^Modeller.......Exceed Wave.............nl...........Music..............Maniacs of Noise Wawa.............pt...........Code^Gfx...........Nothing Weed.............fi...........Code...............Dolphin^Coral Willbe...........fr...........Music^Gfx..........Theralite Wizard...........be...........Code...............Imphobia Workbench........ch...........Music..............Calodox^Level-D Xerxes...........no...........Music..............Night 55 Xorbit...........be...........Code...............Green Y................be...........Gfx^Code...........Green Yolque...........fi...........Music..............CNCD Z................fr...........Code...............Nomad Zenial...........pl...........Swapper^Music......Hypnotize^Palsecam Zeno.............be...........3dgfx..............Green Zippy............no...........Code^Editor........Utopia Zoltar...........pt...........Code............... Zorlim...........fi...........Code...............NetGeneration Zsacul...........pl...........Code...............Norferin Last count: 313 The following people made me alter the list in some way: -Fear/TBL -Garfield/IPC -Quaz/flo -Bahamut/ByteWay --------------- ------| 13.Articles |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Demojournal compo #1 information About: Coding Objective: To make a small executable file that does the following: 1. Loads a chosen demojournal text file (number 7 or higher) 2. Scans the file until it comes to the demosceners list 3. Counts number of sceners 4. Makes all statistical remarks anyone can imagine on that list. 5. Saves all statistics to a txt file (80*50 MAX) Limitations: Final ascii file must be within 80*50 format! Observations: Source code not required. :) Size of the executable is not an issue. Size of output file is! The bigger number of statistical remarks the better. Don't forget to have a small remark on who coded it on the output file Judging: All entries will be tested and then the output file will be judged based on the following: -size/content -statistical information -Layout Prize: World recognition! Plus you help me have a nice statistical output on future issues of demojournal with your name on it. =) Deadline: 30 October 1998 Results: Results will be posted on 1st demojournal of November! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Nifty stuff Pretty nifty idea... We get a list of sceners some guy might want to check out for some information now and then. We have a small corner where people can announce their sites and begginers can have an url to explore. We have an interview. We have some productions reviewed. We also have some charts for the more unaware people to check out who rules. We also have some occasional news now and then. Even a party calendar... Hey! Pretty nifty! One thing missing though... NO ONE WRITES ANY ARTICLES!!! WAKE UP YOU SLUG HEADS! WRITE SOME ARTICLES! Support is all nice and beautyfull... 'nice thing you got there'... 'here are some updates/fix'... I'm tired of getting always the same mails... NO! THIS DOES NOT MEAN I WANT MORE INSULTS, DISTANCE!!! Why the hell doens't anyone write FOR demojournal instead of AT demojournal... You just dump some info on my mailbox and that's it! I didn't mind in the beggining... Hei, cool. Someone cares on little demojournal... Nowdays is starting to get a little frustating... Don't get me wrong, i like knowing demojournal reached one scener further. Only i though i would get more people caring on the making and not just on the output! I guess i was expecting too much out of it... Adok wrote that if a newsletter got past number #10. It was settled on the scene. I am going to try to prove him wrong. As soon as i have more time free, I'm going to implement some changes in the structure just like in the beggining when i was testing with stuff! For me settlement means lazyness. The process of getting settled is far off better than the goal itself. Points of this text are: -I want more articles -I want more help -I want more friends -I want more of everything! I'm a greedy guy... Who cares? Who else? Psychic Symphony ---------- ------| 14.END |--------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- END! Nopes... No stupid speach this time... Just plain end! Psychic Symphony - ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt