--- shutup & draw --- an extension of polymorphs tum comment here it is people this is it this is all i am going to say SHUT UP & DRAW! it ain t about who is in the best group or who has more ops it ain t about who runs l inux and who runs 95 it ain t about who uses creed and who uses hamster its all about art! its all about who likes to draw so what if you aren t good alot of the best artis ts out there sucked when they first started take a look at some early trank packs or the first acid ice cia (ace) paks these people sucked they were good for their time yes bu t time moves on and so does talent experience draw just draw thats it here are som e texts that i have found in one place or another and i thought they would be appropriate for t his time we are going through in the scene as well as good for this release see no one t hought purg was ever going to make it past 3 months when we got to a year our art still wasn t the best but we were getting known not popular there is a difference we were becoming known in the scene as ah purg no other way to put it we weren t like the hardcore gro up that knew how to whoop ass we were just purg 2 years later here we are why because we draw! ________________________________________________________________________________ _________________ One day evil_e and i started chatting about what it would take for the scene to thrive again We came upon the conclusion that it would take a scene-wide revolution in the di rection of the future not wallowing in nostalgia like the majority of you people do Check it out Evil_E who are you doing art for these days bedlam technically i m still an acid member Evil_E I haven t talked to you since mOp days bedlam though 99% of my art is web- or music-related Evil_E dood you like the way the scene is now compared to the way it was bedlam the ansi scene Evil_E yeah bedlam well i m not in the scene really anymore so i can t say but if i wer e to venture a guess i d have to say what ansi scene Evil_E yeah seriously It used to be pretty cool I do nothing at work al l day so I go on irc and these ppl are like brain dead or something Evil_E weak scene compared to the way it was bedlam basically bedlam only reason i hang around is cuz i know people bedlam if i had other channels where i knew people and could talk about stuff i woudln t come in #ansi Evil_E yeah same here I know the old ppl don t know most the new names Evil_E hahah true same here but that is the only place I went in the day Evil_E The only reason me and Bay restarted DVS is to maybe get some kinda int erest going bedlam won t work bedlam for one simple reason bedlam not enough new blood bedlam the scene is on it s way out bedlam so unless a whole lot of like minded people can get some interest going bedlam in the REAL world not just in the scene bedlam it s done Evil_E yeah I wanna restart that try bedlam i mean i dont see ANSI as being interesting to anyone else bedlam it doesn t even have potential bedlam only those who still BBS frequently would find it interesting bedlam and there are so few of those people now bedlam people gotta realize that you can t hold on to ansi for nostalgia and e xpect it to thrive any more than you can expect to holdon to a girlfriend you should have broken up with long ago and expect the relationship to work bedlam of course that analogy is probably lost on most doodleboys =) Evil_E yeah even the vga part and ascii and shit bedlam yeah bedlam i mena bedlam mean bedlam vga has its place bedlam on the web everybody knows that Evil_E well ansi is useless I see that I mean the scene all in itself bedlam ascii may even have a little niche somewhere more than ansi does Evil_E remember all the groups all that type of shit Evil_E ansi is too tedious to do bedlam all the groups came out of a large portion of people being interested i n ansi art bedlam since ansi is only useful on BBS systems as BBS s fade so does ansi bedlam scenesters can t make ansi any more popular in the mainstream without m aking BBS s popular first bedlam i think too many people say ansi is good as an artform bedlam but wonder why nobody new comes into it Evil_E true what about telnet boards Evil_E there are new ppl in the scene but it seems they are clueless bedlam what about them how many non-scene-related boards exist Evil_E ansi is dead there is no use for them anymore I see that Evil_E not many bedlam BBS s aren t kept up for the sake of BBSing they re kept up for the sa ke of justifying ansi art bedlam i dont know of any telnet boards out there that aren t scene related bedlam the ansi scene thrived when there were BBS s out there that had nothing to do with ansi but needed art to make them look cool bedlam warez boards pd whatever Evil_E pd boards were the shit Evil_E =) bedlam BBSs were used almost exclusively for conversation and file transfer bedlam with the internet those functions are dominated bedlam why would you telnet to a board to get a file when you can easily get i t from an ftp or irc channel bedlam why converse on a bbs when you have irc and newsgroups bedlam and web pages for both of those too bedlam the only remaining reason for boards now is for ANSI to have a justifie d place to be Evil_E yeah I m not denying that fact I m just saying the scene as a whol e the way it was with confs and all that shit bedlam yeah but there s very few cool people in the scene anymore bedlam there was always a transition bedlam there were new people and old people bedlam as the old people lost interest new people came and those who were ne w got better and became oldschool =) bedlam generations of artists came and went bedlam now it s mostly people living in nostalgia bedlam few new people bedlam and when new people do come the rest of us just rip on them and call t hem lame and don t help them at all Evil_E no shit it s always ben like that bedlam yeah but at least before there were enough dorks out there to become fr iends with if you sucked Evil_E yeah there is no room for dorks no more bedlam and those groups of lamers grew together eventually to become great bedlam exactly there s so few and any bad group would get killed immidiatel y Evil_E yeah remember the bad groups that released like multiple packs and sh it bedlam the point is even though many of us do vga we re still seeing it as a bbs-related ansi scene Evil_E that is what I want again tho bedlam i mean acid doesn t do ansi but i dont see them get much world-recogn ition bedlam we re still stuck with the warez and demo and hacking guys bedlam all in our own litte scene s bedlam the art scene has to BLOW UP and get out in the real world bedlam but as it is i dont think anyone has the vision and few have the true talent bedlam so many of us have our own endeavors bedlam i mean the scene used to run like this bedlam people had baords bedlam they would request art from those boards Evil_E welp It just seems like ppl grow up bedlam artists would do art and the baords would get it bedlam replace boards with web pages now bedlam that s how it should be bedlam i mean Evil_E well no it can be for web pages and what have you bedlam it wasn t originally art guys requesting art from other artists bedlam it was warez and hacking guys Evil_E it was warez bedlam and pd guys bedlam anyone who ran a board could ask for art from the art scene bedlam once again let s modify that to be web pages Evil_E I know now it s just web but more ppl have web pages then ppl ha d bbs s bedlam anyone who runs a web page should ask for art from the art scene bedlam FREE art bedlam yeah bedlam so WHY is acid and ice and these groups not known to the general public as a good source of good free art bedlam just like we used to be bedlam a) we all want to be paid for it bedlam b) nobody knows about us cuz we re stuck in our dying scene bedlam c) a + b bedlam anyone from out of the scene who requests will be met with pay me bedlam that s what a business is for bedlam acid and ice are not businesses Evil_E well if it s like that then why not just make ice or acid a business a nd make something from it bedlam exactly Evil_E it s pointless bedlam but nobody wants that it seems bedlam i ve brought it up bedlam everyone s got their own businesses Evil_E true bedlam i ve brought it up multiple times and they always say i have a busines s already i just do this for fun Evil_E I got one it s easy money for any of us who know how to work it Evil_E I d like to go back to the old way tho bedlam too bad =) bedlam can t go home again bedlam the BBS era is over Evil_E I loved runnin my board Evil_E that shit was awesome bedlam without BBS s thriving in every part of the online community and not j ust the ansi scene it will be lame bedlam boards are hella fun bedlam but for the scene to thrive off them they have to NOT just be ansi-rel ated Evil_E I remember rackin fuckin hundred dollar phone bills bedlam people who have no interest in ansi need ot have boards bedlam and those people make web pages bedlam fact of the matter is unless we become to web pages what we once were to BBS s the whole scene will die bedlam i think i ve got a whole article in here for some miscellaneous zine th at people in general read Evil_E well that is what I am looking towards Evil_E that is why everyone in dvs is vga bedlam but we gotta ADVERTISE Evil_E I remember when vga groups were worthless to most ppl bedlam to the general populace Evil_E yeah defintely bedlam on yahoo bedlam pages such as that Evil_E It s not hard to get werd around bedlam if we d just try Evil_E I am willing to try and make something work bedlam and the scene has to be WILLING to do and release such things as logos bedlam for free bedlam i mean usually vga logos are boring Evil_E but I mean 6 ppl that I have isn t gonna do it I see tha bedlam but if you were to do a nice little set of logos with pictures and suc h bedlam and release them as a vga bedlam people used to do like generic menu sets why not do that for web pag es find like all the most popular topics a web page would have and do up a generic web page vga template bedlam but in general i think there s no way to save the scene at all Evil_E yeah that is logical bedlam it s dying and will soon be gone completely Evil_E you just came up with a way Evil_E you just need to find support Evil_E I know there are ppl that would be interested bedlam yeah but it takes participation from the WHOLE SCENE to realize what is necessary and to take part bedlam a scene-wide revolution bedlam i sure as hell don t have the time to do that Evil_E if there was enough interest the people that have no interest would b ecome interested bedlam =) Evil_E nor do we akk Evil_E all bedlam i think this conversation needs to be captured and sent to every major group leader to send out to each group member bedlam a call to arms Evil_E but like I said if a number of ppl are dedicated to saving it from dying then it would make others want to help bedlam a let s get this scene back on track in the new era of online artwork bedlam ansi is dead let s put it to rest bedlam i mean bedlam are we trying to save the scene or ansi Evil_E true the word must be sent out Evil_E scene bedlam because they are two very different things which require two very diffe rent forms of action bedlam to save ansi is to first revive BBS s internationally good luck Evil_E I have nothing against ansi if someone continues to do it fine b ut I just want the scene bedlam to save the scene is to allow the current trends of the online communit y dictate what we have to do and not try to dictate it to ourselves Evil_E but we need support from others in order to do this bedlam i mean i m sure there would be some people who would think an ansi2vga logo (done in ansi converted to vga and used on a web page) would be a pretty cool stone-age kind of graphic style bedlam kind of like those people who do the green on black LCD display kind of graphics bedlam you can do so much more now but it s got an oldschool computer look to it bedlam so ansi wouldn t be completely dead i m sure it could be a style tha t people would still enjoy but they d have to be drawn in ansi and converted to VGA for web use Evil_E oldschool is better then no school Evil_E would you be willing to revive the scene Or willing to gain interest and spread the word bedlam heh i could probably help manage things a bit maybe Radman will make me senior staff of acid or something bedlam THEN i ll get my acid alumni status when i quit the scene bedlam bedlam the man who saved the scene bedlam hehehe Evil_E hahah Evil_E I d seriously want to do something bedlam i ve proven before that i can run a group bedlam the fact of the matter is we have to make this a scene-wide revolution bedlam it can t be one group bedlam or even a couple groups bedlam the scene as a whole has to recognize the situation and act accordingly Evil_E yeah I m thinking of something like a scene wide art type thing Evil_E Dood we should write something steming from this conversation bedlam what write we ve already said everything that needs to be said The answer is clear In every way people used to think of BBS s we now have to put web pages in their place it used to seem that everybody and their dog had a BBS now eve rybody and their dog have a web page (no exaggeration unfortunately) The art scene was origina lly some artist- types living in a warez pd hacking world who decided to come together in a commo n goal make BBS land a prettier place to live At some point more groups became involved and t he competition made the original goal thrive and take shape Somewhere along the line though competition became the only reason to be in the scene Around that time the internet becam e more popular and BBS s began to die away We now live in an online society in which the only BBS s out there are kept up simply to let ansi have a purpose The situation has changed my fr iends and we must change with it But while we change we must also look at the original goa l make our online forum a prettier place to be Our online forum has changed but I believ e the goal still holds true This is just the first step of realization much more must be done if our scene is to thrive again Give this to everyone you know that is was wants to be or deserves to be in t he art scene Discussions in #ansi should take shape from this file logged and passed around We have made a goal clear We must act The time for repentance is near! Only those groups who adapt will survive Even the almighty ACiD and iCE will be forced to change as they have already or die with the rest Amen Bedlam ACiD bedlam@enteract com ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________ that might be one way of doing keeping the scene alive yes but we have 2 goals set here beddy we not only want to keep the scene alive but we would like to keep an si ascii even rip alive and everyone switching to vga wouldn t be keeping the oldskewl ar tforms alive ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________ This is kayozz here kayozz who the hell is that heh i bet a lot of you are asking the exact same question well it doesnt really matter who i am the question at hand is where is the scene headed these days and the answer seems to be eye yam a ereet dewdle The frame of mind of todays artist have DRASTICALLY changed over the past couple of years i myself have only been here about a year but have noticed a hugh change in how the scene is its not about art anymore its not about releasing a pack its all about who has more power then the other guy and thats the kind of attitude that is brining the scene down from the inside What we need to do is find the root of the scene which is bbs Think back to when you first started drawing was it to be elite HELL NO it was because you wanted to get leech on some warez bbs or you wanted to get into your favorite group and didnt it make you feel so good when you drew an ansi or ascii and the next day you call the bbs and sure enough its right there didnt it just make you want to draw all day i bet it did Now things have changed somewhere along the line people lost the whole idea on what the scene ansi ascii whatever was and it was for FUN yeah you heard me not $10 a 23-liner not $5 a font FUN!@ and thats the way it should be now no more of this i am too elite to draw for you attitude the scene should be about fun about friends not about who is more elite of more people would just shut the hell up and draw instead of just bitching about how the scene is dying we would all be much better off Maybe one solution is to start putting up Telnet bbs it would give the scene a reason to draw and a place we could all call home a place where the scene could once again thrive a place where your art would a actually be USED how many times have you drawn an ansi or ascii for som eone half way around the world you ll never know if he used it or not and that is another reason why the scene is dying lack of respect for peopl e and groups When a newbie joins #ansi or #ascii they are usually kicked or banned at least which in my opinion is the worst thing to do to t he scene its like killing every baby that somene has eventually all the people are going to die and with no youth to fill the void will surely die For me it was HELL trying to get into the scene first being banned form #ansi #ascii frequently by locals like Discofunk Black Jack Serial Toon and others for no reason other then they didnt know who i was And with everyones attitude being who is this lamer i found myself pondering why am i here anyways It was really hard to actually get into the scene nowadays its all who you know and not how good you draw ive seen artist worse then me join good groups strictly because of who they knew and people pass up opportunitys to join a group saying i dont draw and a week later there in remorse or something What i suggest is we go back to the roots of the scene drawing for the fun and love of it enough of this i am more elite then you BULLSHIT and back to the i like to draw so i will attitude if more people would just stop thinking 371373 and start thinking more pos- itivly the scene might once again thrive like the days of old i wrote this file in hopes that it MIGHT actually get through to some of you people that the scene is not just to be elite but to HAVE FUN and draw then maybe the scene can once again THRIVE like it once did back before the idea of eliteness was put into every young artists head my two cents - Kayozz ( ruckus extended play ) _______________________________________________________________________________ thats the shit i m talkin about thats whats up!@ SHUTUP&DRAW 98!@# dewdle all day long peace out tee_are