that turtle is 100% COMIC RIP !!! WOO!! ZII ZII T H U G Zeus II CIA like add your info here and stuff ---------------------- kawt ---------------------------------------------------- I d just like to quote flame here (rile newsletter) First he tells us not to do comic rips right now i can only say that there are about 3-4 known people in the scene who draw for the sake of drawing if you want an example of this check out diez s solo pack ZXICA on ftp cdrom com and my pics in this pack hopefully others will try to put some feeling into their art express yourselves use your imagination don t just rip a comic what s the point it s not your art! it s just a zerox of someone else s art sure you drew it but you didn t create it your feeling wasn t put into it go out on a limb try the rile way! Then he says this will there ever be a golden age of the art scene a place where people can draw what they want and not worry about what others think of them if they re not drawing up to the SCENE S STANDARDS you see this is more than a group this is a way of drawing it s the next chapter in this long book of crazyness And my comment to this would be Do you know what you re saying How will there ever be a place where people can draw what they want when guys like you keep telling people what to draw! Don t you realise you re trying to make ORIGINAL ART a SCENE STANDARD Zeus II PS if you hate comic rips look at the background it s original