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I would appreciate it even. I'm only putting the pieces together. It's our scene! let's make things happen... Hurray! Wasted 4 hours putting whole list to hotmail account! Everything demojournal related goes to demojournal@hotmail.com now! A couple days later i ran across that nice guy szum/cryogen, i asked him to take care of demojournal for a couple of issues. After i death threatned him a couple of times he even accepted! The point is, i'm going away for a couple weeks, i'm tired of all this shitty world and am taking a break. Don't worry szum, i'll be back to take demojournal off your hands. Don't you dare close it! Every demojournal mail should then be directed only to the hotmail account, you'll have to pardon if szum doesn't reply to all mails thanking for your stuff as i always do but his inet connection is a lot slower! He'll waste a lot of time just getting stuff from hotmail and registing new subscribers. Hopefully Behemot won't mail him 100k of data this week! ;) I will still be reachable through ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt and i hope to get some mail's not demojournal related for a change! Anyone wanting to send me their intros or tunes or gfx is welcome as i always encourage ppl to do so. I always want to meet new people and their creations, don't be shy now! I'll use this small recess for indept meditation and judging of the demojournal compo#2 entries! (read below) Well, enjoy the biggest issue of demojournal so far and see you all in a couple of weeks! BTW: This time it was released on saturday night so that szum has more time to get his act together! Psychic Symphony -------------- ------| 2.Demonews |----------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Psychic: Textmode democompo is over: http://sauna.net/tmdc3/ New useless player beeing finished! FreddyV back on buisness! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Psychic 2: Adok/hugi is moving to china! a0a/green is renaming to z9z! sol/trauma disqualified all tmdc entrys and kept the shitloads of prizes to himself! scorpik/pulse is thinking of finally paying those phone bills he keeps stacked in the basement! Thor/TPOLM is cutting is hair again! Distance realized life isn't a game! d-lee/exceed is pregnant! picard/rhyme is entering hugi size compo #5 rod/mandula is the alien d-lee was searching for! Although he won't join exceed! virne thinks his picture packer is buggy! psychic symphony is leaving the scene! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Misha: >From now TD #Black is also available at: ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/td_black.arj 1st disk ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/td_black.a01 2nd disk it should be much faster that not polish sceners :) [ed: i couldn't find it... but do look for it! mag has great interviews!] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tesko News: Silver Fox renamed to LONE SWORDSMAN Tesko celebrated its 5th birthday in October. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kat/metaphor: Karatti changed his nick to Kat. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gardner: - Gardner joined Anakata - dj regal, belial, szatin, ironman have left anakata So, memberlist of Anakata is now: BiZaRRe...........Coder................Norway Dethar............Coder................Poland Felix.............Musician.............Norway Gardner...........Organiser^swapper....Poland Lodlun............Coder^3d.............France Nuttah............Coder................Norway We are looking for gfx and music makers, if you want in just write to me: gardner@friko6.onet.pl -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Behemot: ByteWay borntro is done! ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/borntro.rar Current memberstatus : Alpha ascii-maker, coder Arson musician (*new*) Azure 2d graphician Banshik coder, graphician Behemot main-organizer, net-swapper Doctor_Q mail-swapper Fugaz coder, musician Hyde musician Khamoon coder (*new*) Mash coder Nytrik 2d graphician (*new*) Rastan coder, designer Tremens raytracer Upcoming productions : - Multichannel module called 'Mystic Ganja' composed by Arson - Photo report from Rush Hours'98 (code-Fugaz; gfx-Azure; photos-Behemot; msx-Falcon/PLS,Decibel/Stones) - Fugaz's music disk (code-Fugaz; gfx-Azure; msx-Fugaz) - Intro 64 kB (Astrosyn'99) (code-Mash & Khamoon, gfx-Azure & Nytrik, msx-Hyde, ascii/ansii-Alpha) - Intro 4 kB (Astrosyn'99) (code-Alpha) - Intro 4 kB (Astrosyn'99) (code-Mash) - Picture drew by Azure (Astrosyn'99) - Picture drew by Nytrik (Astrosyn'99) - Trace rendered by Tremens (Astrosyn'99) - Multichannel module composed by Hyde (Astrosyn'99) - Multichannel module composed by Arson (Astrosyn'99) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Adok: Hugi Size Coding Competition #5 has started on November 8th. Your task is to write a clone for SORT.EXE of MS-DOS. As usual, the smallest program will win, and the authors of the 30 best entries will get points for the world league table. The rules can be found at: http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo/ Happy coding! ------------------------- ------| 3.Thought of the week |------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- Scene dying! --------------- ------| 4.Party on! |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Starts: Ends: Country: Name: Contact: Oct 28 - Oct 31, 1998 Sweden Compusphere X http://www.compusphere.org Oct 29 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden DreamHack '98 http://www.dreamhack.org Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden ACG-Hack X http://hack.amiga-cg.se Nov 07 - Nov 08, 1998 Poland Satellite '98 madbart@jormas.com Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Germany Dialogos '98 http://www.kassablanca.de/dialogos98 Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Norway Kindergarten '98 http://kg.portveien.to/ (X) <-- You are here! Nov 20 - Nov 22, 1998 Slovakia Demobit '98 http://demobit.sk Dec 1998 Israel Movement '98 Dec 12 - Dec 13, 1998 Slovenia Abort '98 http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/ Dec 18 - Dec 20, 1998 Hungary JuMPer '98 http://scene-hu.com/~jumper Dec 19 - Dec 20, 1998 Romania Dracula '98 Dec 25 - Dec 27, 1998 Argentina The Flash '98 theflashparty.home.ml.org Dec 27 - Dec 29, 1998 Denmark The Party 1998 http://www.theparty.dk Mar 1999 Italy Trip 99 Mar 1999 Poland Astrosyn'99 Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway The Gathering '99 Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany Mekka & Symp. 2k-1 http://ms.demo.org May 29 - May 30, 1999 Germany Komso/Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden Remedy '99 http://www.remedy.nu Jul 09 - Jul 11, 1999 Belgium Inscene '99 www.analogica.com/inscene --------------------------- ------| 5.Interview of the week |---------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Session Start: Sun Nov 15 01:07:59 1998 [ed: hei look! my computer clock is advanced 1 day exactly!] *** Now talking in #astroidea *** Picard (user@port021.bp1.telnet.hu) has joined #astroidea there... Picard hi picard is our guest appearance lol :) :)) ok, so start by all you guys telling me your date of birth, name, and scene ocupation go by the namelist gene :) 1977 - Genesis - Szabo Nobert - coder 1978 - Reptile - Vasvári Balázs - musician, coder rept: coder, musician... not musician, coder... :)))) eh hehe I was born in '76, my name is Szabo Gabor, and i'm a codermusician another gabor? ( Psychic_S : in brackets: we write our names in a different way) oh ok you know then yes, it's a common name here, as you can see :) ok, so which one of you is the alien? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA i heard about an alien infiltrated on astroidea... who is he... cammon... genesis surely he is i came from the outer space... but im human... genesis: ahah! what planet you come from? there's even an unmasked pic of him rept: where where? from a distant planet a galaxy far far away... JABBA Psychic_S : gene and tsc have it i assume ok... questions... how long has astroidea been formed... uh oh rept: i think you are the right person to answer... i think it's my job to tell you about us so back in 1994 three of use have formed a group called zhpt (i wont tell you what it is :)) use=us btw later, when we became more active (means: we did nothing:), we changed it to foundation on this very day we learned that there was another foundation :) so we changed it to astroidea we who? we=snowman, o-man, and i why astroidea? whats special about it? well:) i had a classmate tsc: lets invent anagrams while he answers... who wasnt too good at telling stories asstrodiarea a soda tire (c) Mandula he told us about his privateer-game sessions tsc: yah! privateer was cool game... and he said: "and this and then and when the astroideas came......" we laughed our asses off in the class and when we (foundation) came to finding a name i told them it'd be cool they immediately disagreed :)))) but they didnt come with up with any better so we kept it a new star was born! =) speeding up things we released our very first code based thing in 1995 nice story... and where do these other two come to play? (tell us about big story with astroidea vs shock) called astro - a 64k intro asstro! :P just wait ;) ok... explain... in 1996, we went to cache96 and released our first demo - max and we met another group shock including genesis and tsc in 96, we released another demo 'mutha' btw: is mutha2 released yet or not? i dont have it yet... psychic symphony - my chipsy pony ("s,h,c" are left out :))) Psychic_S that was all i could do :) Psychic_S : it was released on antiq98 tsc: u did that by hand? rept: url... 1997 was a big year for us Psychic_S : astroidea.scene-hu.com *** mrz_ai (~mrz@szamos-118.dialin.datanet.hu) has joined #astroidea *** SCEneST sets mode: +o mrz_ai [mrz_ai] MRZ / AstroideA [coder] [ed: scenest bot... gota love it!] rept: ok... go on hi mrz sziasztok [ed: here comes the trouble maker! notice how he manages to ruin every single question from here on... ;)] mrz_ai eppen interjut csinal velunk a srac :))) in 1997, genesis, tsc and trajic joined, and they debuted with their demo "overdrive" gene_ai rept_ai Picard tsc_ai Psychic_S mrz: just in time! im interviewing whole astro! mrz: eppen egy csapat interview van jol... wow mindenki itt van cool Psychic_S haha cool tsc_ai legjobb Psychic_S : oh i left it out: mutha1 was mrz's debut demo mrz: hi with picard as our pupeteer! (he is watching us! :PPP) Picard hi rept_ai how could you leave it out :> evil 4k intro coder mrz_ai : im evil :) Psychic_S: in 1997 we released another coop demo with chrome, called "angeldust2" picard: dont be afraid to intervein and insult everyone on the channel! thats what friends are for... ;) Psychic_S : then we went silent. our latest demo was released a few months ago. (mutha2) * Psychic_S has a question about angeldust 1 my version always crashes after the chik pic... and we organized lotsa parties :) Psychic_S: after which one? :)) Psychic_S write that i just came back from a movie which i saw with picard and some other dudes [ed: mrz haven't realized he is on film yet... :P] the brownish one! Psychic_S maybe without emm386 it won't that's it, in nutshell [ed: background of astroidea is over! time for questions!] Psychic_S: try it in dos mode without emm386... tsc: nah nah... tried it! Psychic_S :)) but they are all brown :) gene: himem and sb support only! crashes! tsc: well... the one naked! lying on a bed! Psychic_S send us your computer, and we're gonna fix it :) Psychic_S: try it with ultrasound... :)) [ed: no GUS for little me! :(] that's overdrive i think [ed: he's starting to wake up around now... NO, it's spiceless actually! my fault! I confused them all! :P angeldust also crashes but only on end] tsc: wait... let me zip it so i can dcc send... DAMN how am i gonna fit my mother board into a zip? Psychic_S : btw: 1977 - Mrz - Rajnai Zoltán - Coder * Psychic_S punches his computer a couple of times auch! rept_ai thanx rept: oh yeah... thx Psychic_S try with a hammer.. mrz_ai noprob. i saved you some typing :) Psychic_S Zoltan Rajnai (like John Smith) so Zoltan is my first name... but first we should complete the interview, THEN you should punish your machine mrz: he knows everything... :))) lets get down to more serious stuff... i ask one question and each of you tell me just one answer! first party! gene_ai ;> Scenest 95 mrz_ai : we go by the namelist * Psychic_S slaps mrz: behave... :PPPPPPP [ed: trouble maker! ;)] too late :) ok ok... restarting hehe sorry :/ * mrz_ai sits in the corner [ed: and don't move until we let you know... :P] TSI parti 91 (the first pc party in hungary, i was an organizer) 1991 in hungary called 220v party. Cache'94 favorite drink coke Coke light (oem version) cherry coke coke mrz_ai ? favorite demo (including your owns) namelist okay???? ok huh.. i have lots of... olders: unreal... :)) dope stars second reality * Psychic_S grabs mrz by the ear... look at the board young man! 303 / acme crystal dream 2 lol gene: just one! :PPPP second reality, crystal dream2, 303 and i like angeldust 1 too... :) * Psychic_S thinks this is gonna be pretty messy to edit! Psychic_S : sorry - there's no TOP1 Timedemo1 in Quake - erm,.. no, it's Saint by Halcyon! [ed: saint rules!!!] hehehe fulcrum/matrix [ed: picard lives!] wtf... favorite intro then... so? no more favorites please :))))) who the hell could choose hmmm... gene_ai goes first stash... pl... Psychic_S dont ask favorite stuff ;)) we can't choose Surely STASH but just for the music, coz I like goa and Probe's stuff generally but just for the music.. stash jizz stash for ever :) astro. no doubt :) and any fudge intro ;> :> * Psychic_S has one big question WHAT THE HELL IS GOA?!?!? tsc_ai answer I wanna know... i never understood! tsc_ai your very turn ;) w8 goa is a town in India it's a kind of Psychedelic trance, the name GOA refers to a city in Asia in India examples... Psychic_S : stash. jizz. :) Astral Projection is the most known goa band tsc: dont know them... astralasia... on amiga Azazel, Probe did a lot of good goa songs rept_ai :) humm so, you still don't know too much, but at least we tried :) ok... back to questions... this is a race compo... see whom is quicker... whats a demo? an artistic presentation... a demo is a noninteractive multimedia presentation demonstration of coding and art skill whats a mod? mod is an amiga based music format a 4 channels music format. Mahoney and Kaktus =) [ed: i didn't get that last one!] tsc_ai : yessss:) dang:) what is the capital of madagascar? Helsinki?! Budapest... :)) Budapest??? gene_ai :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [ed: tsc tsc... antananarivo!] define scene! how long have you guys been online? mrz: way too long! :P answer questions! define scene... scene=anarchy :) :>> Scene is where all the lousy guys (who can't bear reality) spend their little unimportant lives and trying to make stuff to amuse each others :) scene= friendship ;>>> scene is a community based on making non-profit productions for each other to share our knowledges or just plainly cause immense pain :) scene = underground community of computer nerds scene is scene - no doubts rept_ai wow define nerd... Psychic_S ? (that was the definiton ;))) just kidding [ed: lol!] Psychic_S umm people who go to chess competitions ;> have their pens in their shirt pocket etc... (stereotype)...... rept_ai ;> 150 tall, wears glasses, holds a coding book in the left hand, and a bottle of coke in the right :> tsc: :))) tsc_ai : BLALA!!!! :))))) jea! (not all of them wear glasses;> blala ;>. mrz_ai : some of them wear lenses ;) hehe nerd= people who are on IRC on friday night mrz: what day is it today anyways? saturday mrz: monday? saturday? Psychic_S umm (early) saturday define elite... elite? very cool game from the early 80's some of the them have perfect vision Elite is an old game from C64 mrz: go sit on a corner... :PPPPPPPP Eliteism is dead together with BBS-es elite = someone who you see on a party and say "wow that's xxxxxx" elitism means being (in a good sense) separated from the lower masses * Psychic_S thinks this will be fun! define mrz_ai! a nerd! :)) :) haha #define mrz_ai define genesis_ai define DemoJournal :) picard: hei! picard: nice line... answer that guys... COME ON PPL ORDER .....ORDER :>? i mean let's answer first before we ask something else ok? mrz_ai: NO :) w8 mrz: ok... answer picards question! hmm Psychic_S : camon! come up with something else ;) rept: now i wanna know... define demojournal! demojournal: a weekly newsletter that's not getting the attention it deserves okay demojournal is a mag definitely on a good way to inherit demonews' place demojournal... i havent read any of it... yet! :) [ed: shame on you!] DemoJournal is a bunch of digital information that is starting to fill up my hard disk with pretty useless information, but generally it's a nice thing that will help our scene survive * Psychic_S throws in another question: Whats the best effect you have ever seen? guys? uhm HAHA EASY: BBLLOBBSS hehe mrz_ai thought you would choose it ;) ;> best effect....... hmm... nowadays... i havent got any of them, but i was stunned when i saw dope.... i think it was bump when i first saw it Best effect: maybe the world-vector in unreal, i was amazed when i saw that... what about metaballs? metaballs = blobs... :)) [ed: AH!] Psychic_S : mrz chose blobs ;) Psychic_S metaballs=blobs ;> my fav whats a dif between blobs and shadebobs? Psychic_S : he's a blobmaster so dont mess with him ;) huh... a world... :) Psychic_S completely different certified blobcoder (he sends us his new blob routine daily - it seems he didn't notice that this effect is OLD :) :) grrrrr what shadebobs were on a 286 are metaballs on a pentium... :) not old just needs some improvement :) he's thinking ;) who? psy * Psychic_S is ... er... out of ideas! how much of the interview did i miss ? mrz_ai : very very much :) lets try and talk about serious stuff then... ask our fav. food =)))) tsc_ai : NOOOOOO rept_ai j/k what do you think about 3d demos? Picard i like them' 3d demos are cool as long as they arent boring rept_ai really? much stuff before the group history? rept: define boring... Psychic_S : boring = you wish it was a c64 demo where you could press space to see the next part :) Picard: a good mix between 3d and 2d effect is required in a good demo... Should support 3d accelerators ASAP i dont care if it's 2d 3d mixed or anything what is your forecast for the next year (in demoscene)? is the future really all about windows and 3d-cards? Picard are you going to be the editor of the next demojournal? :>> mrz: he might! ;) picard: thx for help! =) i think the usage of 3d accelerators will spread.. I 'm afraid demoscene is slowly dying :( tsc: why? Psychic_S : 3d cards are CHEAP. so why not windows for sure..... im not sure about 3d cards.......it seems to me it limits the person to 3d and polygon based effects mrz_ai : megcsinaltam az ave glide supportot:) mutha2 vegigmegy mrz_ai: i think you are wrong... :)) define 3d effect... :)) rept: so is voodoo II taking over? Psychic_S i see the most active great groups fall asleep or coding commercial stuff, and i can't see really good newcomers, at least i can't see ENOUGH ;( gene_ai anything that has objects rotating and/or a camera moving about something ;> Psychic_S : v2 or tnt or whatever tsc: and why is that? mrz: it is possible using polygons to do not 3d looking effect too... for example radial blur... and so on... gene_ai radial blur with polys? mrz: yeah... :)) like 2 polys for a plane or what? i mean a square Psychic_S lotsa reasons exist: lack of interest, quake, windows, commercial coding, and so on mrz: pl. 30 polys... and dump them on top of eachother.... that's emulating a 2d effect mrz: yeah... :) mrz: with bilinear filtering and hires... gene_ai we'll see ;> what do you guys think about design? and these new demos that have been coming out Psychic_S : scene was about making effects on an existing hardware, with all its limitations. nowadays, demomaking is like game-industry. code+music+gfx are all important, and if only one of them is missing or not VERY good, you're dead. Psychic_S i like demos with design but ONLY design is not good enough..... i think a demo revolves around the code (but code without good music and nice synching is worthless) picard: next question! haha :)))))))) Purple, Blasphemy, Exceed, Mandula, they all came up with the same idea, that a good designed demo can beat everything, that code isn't that important, design that only matters :) (at least for me) mrz: picard, my saviour... :PPPPP :> tsc: now dont say that those demos dont have awesome code tsc: because you and i know they do! Psychic_S maybe they have, but you know, that they put the design into foreground, and they are right Psychic_S : 'dis' definitely has cool code. the others dont tsc: isnt the key knowdays to put effects rolling? not just effects... VERY DARN GOOD LOOKING EFFECTS! and new ideas, and to connect them, to keep the demo smooth rept: 3D splines on blasphemy and purple... Psychic_S: ok... you are right, but we werent so amazed like the old times... gene: maybe in the old days ppl werent looking for design but for capability... taking cpu to the limit! Moreover good looking effects don't always require hard coding. Psychic_S : splines arent that hard to code. nowdays all have pentiums and dont really care on speed! Cpu isn't a limiter anymore... you guys seen shad/cocoon+syndrome? design was definitly main key... shad was nice Psychic_S: yes, but slow 3d shad has design? very slow :) i didnt notice design? i think they created very nice 3d scenes, but not the design was the best thing... tok jo lesz a riport.....mindenkit utalunk :)) And on my machine their 3ds player wrote a lots of text on the screen scrolling the pic away, is that design!? :) rept: U DIDNT NOTICED? rept: their 3d-engine might need a work but they did work on design! Psychic_S : no. i saw cool textures the guy who did the textures - he was brilliant.. (tenshu) rept: and those were done thinking on what? design! Psychic_S: no it is not design... just very nice gfx... Psychic_S: thinking and doing is a different thing. but dont go into it but really nice. rept: too late... what do you mean, thinking and doing is dif? "thinking and doing is a different thing" our latest demo is the best example of this In my opinion Grif, Majic12, Exceed (and a lotsa groups on amiga)- they did the best designed demos so far Psychic_S: a demo full of high quality pictures just shown after eachother is not design (im not speaking about shad..) tsc_ai : right gene_ai : :))))))) hm full of pictures, hm hm i saw this somewhere.......:) rept: where??? :))) hehe... mutha2 :) pictures after pictures is slideshow aje ... but when it goes at the right speed, it's called "movie" :) =)) but if you have all pictures sorrounding some theme and then do some according music and effects... you have design! so just the gfx not makes a demo to have well designed... Psychic_S : that's what we tried to do. we didnt succeed very well rept: :) design needs time... lotsa time with synchronizing a bunch of small happenings to the music thats right tsc: like with hyperventilation/byterapers Psychic_S: and this isnt enough too... gene: go on... i think 30+fps is also a part of design (believe or not) look at purple's demo... and you will see design, i think... (thats my opinion...) but i think second reality isn't so well designed too... :) synchronizing is the key. look at second reality. it has no "feelingdesign" or "themedesign" but it is well synchronized, and it's cool :) ai ai ai... design is giving me an headache so what about statix demos... they have hardly no gfx yet design rules! * mrz_ai LOVES the part in second reality with the plasma and the AWESOME music at that part........... that gives you a strange strange feeling when you watch it.... [ed: yeah... spine chills! :~)] that's design gfx isnt neccesary 303 is awesome (the music and the blobs make it a sure winner in my book) mrz: ok... you are right... mrz: even with all those bugs and so badly polished? gfx wise it partly sucked! though everyone seems to love it... Psychic_S: it was a milestone in the demo history, this is sure... i like it because it has great music (singing!) and the first time i watched it, i wanted to see it about 3 more times... i think there are different types of design.. statix' demos don't have too much gfx but you can't see still pictures in music videos either! so gfx isn't required, but can help a lot. ok... so definition of design is... cant we leave design??? :) hEH design = the overall feeling that the demo gives you (it can use many means to achieve the feeling.....i think that music is the most powerful way..... then come the graphics....) but demos that have all this but no code still can't be called good demos.... so it's really complex lol it's like meaning of life... 42... :)) design = impression you get.......... the demo fell apart....or really strong and compact! hehe ok... back to aliens then... genesis: tell us about your homeplanet... hey... leave me with that alien thing... :))) (he wants to keep his incognito) gene: OK OK! dont worry... we wont tell a person! [ed: HEI LOOK EVERYONE! GENESIS IS AN ALIEN!!!] ;) any questions you guys want to ask each other? each other. hm well Psychic_S: you may ask things about our plans... :)) HAHAHA no tsc_ai : no??? hol??? :) what are your plans for the future? * mrz_ai asks; why am i so beautiful and all of you so ugly? [ed: we don't shower 5 times a day!] :) Psychic_S: finish school and get a high paying job somewhere ;> * gene_ai asks: why am i so clever and all of you so stupid? [ed: it's a matter of personality and character! You might think others are stupid while they are actually more clever than you! ;)] umm, i would get rich, and i would get some sportscar, finish our game, these are my plans for the next year Psychic_S : a family. settling down in a beautiful valley. enjoying the gifts of mother nature. seeing my kids as they grow up, with the cute doggies of course. watching the sunset. in peace and quiet umm are your kids gonna be dogs? heeh how old are you all again? Psychic_S im 21 and after this. all goes black rept: what? comet? earthquake? tidalwave? Psychic_S : none of them. the inner fire that burns...... eating our body. noone can resist [ed: yeah... filosophy on a friday 13th! actually it's already 2am but...] i'm 22 Picard: and it is possible we will release something too... but it is not sure... at least not in this century... :)) i'm 20 but i feel like.. 80 any projects including picard/rhyme that awesome size coder? i'am 21 projects writing a thesis and finishing school no clearly defined projects in the scene (or so i think....... ;) i definitely have plans rept: for what? we're going to release a musicdisk of the music label "beep" next month rept: ah! good... and the url for that is... and i have several plans Psychic_S :it's not released yet Psychic_S : www.nexus.hu/carlos it's only an introduction I would like to become a graphic artist, because that's the only thing i hadn't experienced yet on my scene carreer. rept: mizujs a partyval? az is lesz? nemde? Psychic_S lots of talk and little action.... just for the final wrap up... how is the hungarian scene going? And we would like to organize Scenest parties of course... rept [rept] Reptile / Astroidea [musician/coder] so back with a vengeance rept: mizujs a partyval? az is lesz? nemde? gene_ai remelem well i guess its time for the goodbye! :( anyone wants to say hi to anyone? goodbye Psychic_S. live long and prosper rept: lol. not me, silly... your friends! hi to all sceners on the world... :)))) i would like to say hi to mom and dad, and little pete :) tsc: who is pete? Psychic_S he's my little brother =)) well i'd like to thank my producer, my friends who helped me alot my parents. i luv ya!!!!! and of course my fans, without them i couldnt be here tonight! dont ever try to include this :) i was only kidding [ed: i wouldn't dream to include it! :PPPPPP] rept: u seen mtv europe music awards yesterday didnt you? * rept_ai watched too much mtv :))))))))))))) rept: though so! :PP yess mrz: btw: what on earth did you do?!?!? i got about 30 new subscribers for demojournal from hungary alone! *** mrz_ai has quit IRC (Ping timeout!) Psychic_S: mrz made a propagnda for DJ in hungary :) mrz is dead... :)) out of biz he is oh well... well just have to say goodbye without him all together now... BBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! wave to the camera... bye bye dude! viszlat Psychic_S ! picard? i aint no sea why would i be waving rept: bahahaha bad line... sea? my fans are waiting for me: Hi there 20 Years old female i have nude shots at http://206.129.156.234/imfee tsc: LOL this is the 20th message tonight of this kind =)) Psychic_S ya but it has design ;) welll thats it! finished! =) thx a lot guys... i dont recall such a fast paced interview ever! eh we're serving and protecting oh well... better dont loose this log! if you do, i got it ;) we have it too and me too... :) thx don't be afraid :) saving for posterity! :P =)) feel the power of goodbye gonna redo the wallpaper on my bed room with this! rept: too much mtv Psychic_S: greatings to Adok beszarok the power is yours... :) may the force be with you! may the power be with you [ed: power?] force dang im lame rept:!!!!!!! rept!!!!! i corrected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)))))))))))))) :)) gene_ai : telepatia :) * Psychic_S logs out! boom! Session Close: Sun Nov 15 02:31:46 1998 [ed: 1 hour and a half!] Must say this was one hell of a cool interview! Let's see if next week szum can do better! :) Psychic Symphony ---------------------- ------| 6.Demo of the week |--------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- overdrive - astroidea's contribution for the rage ninetyseven democompo .credits genesis - 3dsplay, routines, textures, keyframing tsc - videosystem, routines, textures, design beast - artwork rendall - artwork, design kal - artwork melan - additional design and ideas trajic - music crafty/exact - textures soundsys - midas by sahara surfers ( /setup for manual sound setup) pmode/w - daredevil and tran .system requirements gus (ace, pnp) 512k or a sound blaster (pro, 16) compatible fast vga (lores truecolor recommended) 486+ but a pentium is strongly recommended 16 megabytes of free memory (sorry lamers :) .comment try to find the hidden suicide messages and hidden parts! .Psychic Symphony kick ass demo! 2nd place it got! My first contact with astroidea. debut of trajic, tsc and genesis on astroidea! who would have known one year later i would be interviewing the guys themselves? =) ----------------------- ------| 7.Intro of the week |-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- ---------------------- | | | On strike! | | | ---------------------- --------------------- ------| 8.MOD of the week |---------------------------------------------------- --------------------- 'Whisper' by Melwyn/Acid Rain ftp.scene.org/music/artists/melwyn/me_whisp.mp3 Totally rules! Official dreamhack'98 results are still unreleased but i think this one got second place! Not sure... Lots of compos going on at dreamhack'98 so... The song itself is a sort of rock-symphony. Some furious strings in there, combined with awesome vocals! And arpegios in the background! First time i heard it, was just a gore tune, after more examination i started noticing other details that totally went against that concept! It's hard for me to describe tunes since i just go for what sound nice but this one definitly sound good! Very good indeed! It has this anger release to it... 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Support this great zine and contact Adok at: hugi@netway.at For more information, check out http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ Estimated RELEASEDATE of HUGI #13: November or December 1998 The exact releasedate depends on how many articles we will get within a short time, so if you want Hugi to come out soon, you know what to do! ( always good for ..... ) a laugh!! _ : o_o : ( n_______n (_| = / ___ \ = = ---- |________ }_____ ( (_u_) ) ((O) \\. / \_______/ \ =(_O) | / \ sT(_O)|___ [ P A i N ] . da swiss diskmag is looking for your articles ! . send everything to : pain@space.ch . check it out on the www ! . http://www.space.ch/scene/pain ---------------- ------| 10.Homepages |--------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk Byteway...............ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/ DC-1.....................................demo.dyn.ml.org/scene Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed Hugi.......................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mandula Melcom....................http://www.center-nebula.com/melcom/ Melcom (mirror)......................http://www.melcom.cjb.net Mono211..............................http://www.scene.org/mono Nico....................................http://geecs.org/~nico Pain............................http://www.space.ch/scene/pain Quad.....................................http://www.quad98.net Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org TPOLM...............................http://www.tpolm.scene.org ------------------------ ------| 11.Quote of the week |------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ what is the capital of madagascar? Helsinki?! Budapest... :)) Budapest??? gene_ai :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) They where a little confused! ;) ------------- ------| 12.Charts |------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- Please vote on reply to the mailing list newsletter release! Just send back something like pulse/shad/paper/unreal/falcon/made. The markers on the side are comparing to last week's position. Whenever the list gets too big i will discount 1 point from each votee! Until the day comes, keep those votes rolling in... Group: Pulse.................................. (19) = CNCD................................... (6) = Purple................................. (4) = Doomsday............................... (4) = Exceed................................. (4) > The Black Lotus........................ (3) > Orange................................. (2) < Blasphemy.............................. (2) < Fudge.................................. (2) > Hellcore............................... (1) = Halcyon................................ (1) = Quad................................... (1) = Komplex................................ (1) = ACME................................... (1) = Exmortis............................... (1) N Demo: Shad....................Cocoon^Syndrome (7) = 73ms..............................Pulse (5) = Dis.............................Mandula (5) = The Fulcrum......................Matrix (4) > Hyperventilation.............Byterapers (3) = Rip Rap..........................Exceed (3) > Off............................Doomsday (3) = 303................................ACME (2) > Tribes............................Pulse (2) > Sexadelic....................Byterapers (1) = Stigma.........................Doomsday (1) = Boost: vivid part 2............Doomsday (1) = Second Reality..............Future Crew (1) = Automaton Flavour..............Hellcore (1) = Stars: Wonders of the world.......NoooN (1) < Rebel? (as perceived)...........Komplex (1) = Sunflower.........................Pulse (1) N Tour..............................Pulse (1) N Captured Dreams........................ (1) N Unclean........................Exmortis (1) N Caero.........................EMF^Plant (1) N Intro: Paper........................statix+vic (11) = Pager 11..........................Fudge (6) = Mesha.............................Rhyme (5) = Stash...................The Black Lotus (5) > Deesbab..........................Orange (4) = Clone meets clone..................ACME (4) = Birdcage.........................Jamm R (4) > Sin(x)...........................Dawn 3 (2) < Kill the clone....................Fudge (2) = transmogrification II.............Blocc (1) = Huge Crowd.......................Orange (1) = 24/7........................Pulse^Sonik (1) N Code: Unreal.............................CNCD (11) = Mr.Sex.......................Byterapers (6) = Statix.........................Lionhead (6) > Virne..............................COMA (6) > Echo..............................Fudge (4) < Mrock..........................Hellcore (4) < Picard............................Rhyme (3) = Rod.............................Mandula (3) = Barti.............................NoooN (2) = Plash.....................Nothing^Azure (2) > Buckshag...................Superstition (1) < Dune.............................Orange (1) = Hellfire........................Haujobb (1) = Galvados.........................Orange (1) = Nix.....................The Black Lotus (1) = Whizzter........................Woorlic (1) = Jace....................The Black Lotus (1) N Camel........................ (1) N Music: Falcon.......................Tokyo Dawn (8) = Dune (BrothomStates).............Orange (8) = Muffler.............................DCS (4) = RevisQ............................Monar (3) < Scorpik...........................Pulse (3) N Mindwalker.....................Suburban (2) < Shad..............................Pulse (2) < Groo...............................CNCD (2) < Croaker...................TPOLM^Halcyon (2) < Necros...................Five Musicians (2) > Steffo.........................Cryonics (2) > CareBear...............Orange & Komplex (1) < Radix............................Groove (1) < Smash...........................Nothing (1) < Stereoman.........................Noise (1) < Zodiak..........................Cascada (1) < Hunz.....................Five Musicians (1) < Vim!...............................Mono (1) < Echo..........................Diffusion (1) N Jam............................Korozone (1) N Graphics: Made...............................Bomb (11) = Lazur........................ (10) = Vizualize..................Pulse^Jamm R (9) > Ra................................NoooN (6) < Louie...................The Black Lotus (3) = Sunday..........................Nothing (3) > Cereal........................Ooze labs (2) < Beast.........................Astroidea (2) = Hellfire........................Haujobb (2) = Kobold.........................Metaphor (1) = Rappid................................. (1) = Haplo.............................Pulse (1) = Jugi............................Komplex (1) = Danny.............................Eidos (1) N --------------- ------| 13.Messages |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- From: Psychic Symphony To: All his friends Content: I'm taking a small vacation to real life! Email ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt Don't give szum a hard time now... From: Psychic Symphony To: Fleur staff Content: I have an article for you guys... mail me to get it! ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt From: a0a / green To: other greenies Content: Jongens, krijgen jullie dit nu aan of niet ? :) From: D-Lee/Exceed To: All Content: Hey people! In some weeks Christmas time! Send me some nice post- cards or surprises. =) Really. Here is my adress: Peter Vamosi, 9700 Szombathely, Kodaly Zoltan u. 12./9/39. Hungary. Thanks. From: Psychic Symphony To: D-lee/exceed Content: Only if you send me a birthday card! 19 december! Filipe Cruz. Praceta Colegio de Gaia 140 3E. 4400 VN Gaia. Portugal. No birthday card for me... no xmas card for you! Eye for an eye! From: D-Lee/Exceed To: Spicces Girls Content: Hi Girls! =) Ildi greets ya! I hope we will meet at Jumper'98! From: D-Lee/Exceed To: Sceners of Slovenia, Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia and Croatia Content: Hey people! Come and visit partys of hungary! We ever miss ya, and well we got a lot of party here. (Sometimes too lot.) If ya want to know the next date: www.scene-hu.com. We are waiting for other country people too! From: D-Lee/Exceed To: All Content: Phonehead: Syrinx - this is what i want in MP3, or better the whole videoclip in AVI or MPG. Anyone got it? From: D-Lee/Exceed To: All Content: Sorry that only pictures now avaiable at our homepage. We will do it later. But i hope the pictures fell you. =) From: Aliens To: D-Lee/Exceed (who invited an alien to join exceed) Content: 1000001 1010011 1001011 0100000 1001101 1010101 1001100 1000100 1000101 1010010 (decode hint: ascii rules the universe) From: D-Lee/Exceed To: Ezah/Dilemma Content: I hope you are now out of the hospital. Do that fuckin' Fleur or you become problems. =) From: Psychic Symphony To: Ezah/Dilemma Content: Me and D-Lee are setting up the 'killing ezah for no-fleur2' organization! Every money that comes to our vaults will be used to hire special wrestlers to kick the living shit out of you! Better hurry, our vaults are getting pretty filled up! From: Melwyn To: HiRMU at Dreamhack '98 Content: Miksei funkki soi? From: Nephoo/evolve To: Psychic Symphony Content: Nah... I dont want to back history... More important for me now is demo with Evolve. From: Nephoo/evolve To: Distance Content: Remember me? You promised me a module... From: Picard/Rhyme To: D-Lee/Exceed Contect: you message flooder :) From: Salami To: All Content: Send a mail to "daredevi@dorsai.org" that the pmw source will be released!!! don't let it die on his harddisk. From: Psychic Symphony To: Melwyn Content: Best damn party report i ever read! U rule mate! From: Cremax To: Psychic Content: what is a winter? i never seen snow in my whole life! From: a0a To: CreeP Content: Yes . . were all 'aving phun *<:-) From: Behemot/ByteWay To: All Content: Check out ByteWay borntro (ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/borntro.rar) and support Wrotki magazine ! From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Doctor_Q/ByteWay Content: Get your ass and start working! From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Hyde/ByteWay Content: Your new modules are kewl! Especially I like 'end of summer' very much. From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Fugaz/ByteWay Content: Don't worry... From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Alpha/ByteWay Content: I'm looking forward to getting your new ascii and ansii. From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Arson/ByteWay Content: Maybe, you should contact me ? From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Azure/ByteWay^Dillema Content: Wow! Our spelling mistakes rule :) Check out our borntro if you haven't done it yet. From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Banshik/ByteWay^Apatia Content: No words for you... From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Khamoon/ByteWay^Tube27 Content: Keep up good work. From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Mash/ByteWay Content: Surely, you're the most active member in BTW. From: Behemot/ByteWay To: Nytrik/ByteWay Content: Wait for CD. Send me your all pictures... From: Psychic Symphony To: Behemot Content: There's this thing called mailing list, you put inside lots of email addresses and then magically all people hear your messages! ;) Thx fro whole stuff anyways behemot, u rule! BTW: Sorry for no addies but new url policy is working! :( Need to chop down space, this is newsletter not diskmag! =) Send me a mail will ya? ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt Oh! Don't send 100k files to szum next week or he will give up on trying to assemble demojournal when he starts reading your mail! ;) From: Dildo To: D-Lee/Exceed Content: Nem rtana m r ism't valami egetrenget"t kre lni. Csin lljunk dem½t h rom nap alatt! Majd valamelyik h'tv'g'n. Jumperre. Vagy mittom'n. From: Psychic Symphony To: MRZ Content: Go back to that url and translate this: Recentes noticias: Esta confirmada a recente invasao hungara ao demojournal! Editor tenta desesperadamente parar hungaro de 3 letras que insiste em trazer mais e mais pessoas para esta mailing list! Ajuda! :) That should be fun! From: Psychic Symphony To: Nemesulku Content: Haven't forgotten about you! On number 16 mate! Be patient! From: Psychic Symphony To: Brainpower/dawn3 Content: It's all your fault! Couldn't you have stopped me from buying a computer? GRRR... From: Psychic Symphony To: Distance Content: Hope you enter the compo! From: Psychic Symphony To: DJamm Content: Hope you enter the compo! From: Psychic Symphony To: Melwyn/Acid Rain Content: Please e-mail latest stats.zip to szum, ASAP! From: Psychic Symphony To: Adok/Hugi Content: Tell me one week before hugi#13 out ok? I wanna send you stuff! ----------------- ------| 14.Demoscener |-------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- This is supposed to be a list of all currently active demosceners! Warn if there is something wrong or missing! PLEASE! Don't hesitate for one second to send me listings of people who are active and not in here... This list is far from complete! Let's get one thing straight: I don't want to be told to go to some url and get all names!!! I want ppl to send me small listings of friends who aren't here. Got it? Good! 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""" .::::::::::: --------------- ------| 15.Articles |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Open Music Contests ------------------- Once upon a time, there was an irc channel called #demoscene on IRCnet, where famous and less famous (hungarian scene) people gathered every night.... Some of them thought: enough of talking, let's do something more creative! And, because these people were mainly musicians, they came up with the idea of an IRC-wide music competition! They named it TDSMC (The #DemoScene Music Contest). Time passed, the contributions were in, although there were only a few competitors (7). The winner was announced, and everything went back to normal............ .........until those restless guys said: "Hey! The first one was fun, let's have another one , but this time, make it harder! Let it be a REAL challange!" So they decided: it's time for the first hungarian CHIPmusic compo! One of the organizers put the samplepack together, uploaded it to an ftp-site (demo.dyn.ml.org), and the contest had begun! There were 14+1 contributions (one was disqualified because of using other samples than the pack), and i can say, most of them are just COOOOOOOL!!!!!! Most importantly, this time there were three foreign contributors (Optic/TRSI, dixan/RamJam and Imode/Exceed), and i think it shows that people DO need these kind of "just for fun" competitions! In my opinion, music competitions with restrictions are more challenging and interesting than normal ones, so we're going to organize another one in the near future.... If you're interested, or just want to share your opinion, send a letter to reptile@scene-hu.com! I'm also looking forward to getting any recommendations for the next compo. You can reach us at the address mentioned above, or on IRCnet, #demoscene, after 10pm CET. reptile / astroidea p.s.: these contests are NON PROFIT! There are no prizes, we made our tunes for each other to share. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Short stupid Dreamhack'98 report by steffo So after writing the exam in digital technnics on thursday I went home and packed all my stuff, coded some on the demo, and called spruce. Well we all were done packing and stuff, I and jonas took our bikes and went downtown to get that minibuss we where hiring. It wasn't as big as we'd thought, so we had to do some refurnituring in it, but it worked out ok. We started to drive around to pick everybody up, we first went to Iceman/Noice place, where we also met Evade/Obscure (almost in noice as well :)) and Hubble/Noice. They seemed to be cool guys already then. which was nice.. sitting in a bus for 8 hours with boring people would suck. We picked Marwin/Noice and drove to my house to get my stuff (somewhere in between we picked up spruce's stuff aswell :)). Then we started driving! And Iceman started drinking (what a bum :)) cider in the bus. But fortunately he didn't have that much with him. *phew*. He could've gotten really annoying otherwise. When we had drove like. maybe 1/4 of the way I started suspecting that I've forgotten my bag at home, I had like all my clothes, cables, mouse and keyboard in. Spruce thought we hadn't forgotten it, but he was wrong :) We stopped at my parents place and I got some clothes and a keyboard there, and after ca another 25km's we stopped to eat (YES! we'd been in the bus for four hours or so now!), Spruce's father had made an excellent meal for the all of us, and we also picked up spruce's little brother here (arvid) and met spruce's little sister (who had a cold I think). We borrowed the toilet for a while and such things and then we started heading for borlaenge again. The rest of the trip sucked :) When arriving in borlaenge, we stopped to ask where kupolen was, so spruce ran out of the bus and asked some drunk guy, but we got the right directions! (rock). We walked in. Me and evade got a bit suprised.. There was a note by the entrance with a message to us :) It said "Evade & Steffo, go to the infodesk, they'll know where I am / putteCRS" (that is Patrik/cryonics), but of course it was written in swedish, swedish rocks for swedes. So we went upstairs and met java/cryonics and deone/cryonics, they where drunk :) They rocked bigtime, and then patrik came aswell, and the whole bunch of cryonics and noice people met in our rocking v.i.p room that patrik had gotten for us. He had to do a lot of fucking to get it, but it was worth it. In the viproom gnilk/noice and andromeda/noice was sleeping at the time. atleast andromeda. I bought some cables for my computer, and stole the rest from gnilk, and his monitor (it rocked!) which was much bigger than mine. I plugged in my stereo and everything, although playing loud in here was out of question, since the crew's sleeping hall was just next to us. I worked on mine and spruce's demo for a while, then I checked out the partyplace. lotsa people here.. And I met loonie! he sure do rock, a cool guy he is! Nothing much happened, but the next day (after some decent sleeping) the other crs+noc'ers decided to do a "fucking borlaenge" demo, what can I say? rocknroll! So patrik borrowed, well, after some more fucking, a digital camera, and started taking neat pictures. Some girls wanted to borrow gnilks stereo, and that was fine with us, IF they could say some neat stuff in a mic so that we could use it in the demo :) They did. Rocking cool girls! We all finished our stuff, like music and graphic and demos, and entered the compos, although the other guys had to fuck some organizers to move the deadline for the democompo a bit. So. We went downtown to drink some beer! First we went to a loosers place, just because there was no people in the cue or anything, but this place sucked, we only bought one beer there ;) Instead we went to another place and payed the entrance and drank another beer, me, andromeda, marwin, hubble and evade hit the dancefloor to show the borlaenge youths how it should be done! The didn't seem to understand.. Some girl walked to me and asked if I was named "johan" or something, don't remember, I said "no", she turned around and saw hubble. And hugged him! They used to go to kindergarden together :) (hubble lives about 900km's from borlaenge or so). We went home and slept for a while. And oh yeah, there was this nice organizergirl that we treated nice. Very nice. But not in her opinion :) We said stupid things everytime she entered the room, which was nice and fun and all that. Then I woke up to late, missed the 4chn music compo and the first entries in the mchn compo. But atleast mine, marwins and loonie's tunes where played. That was enough, and most of the other tunes sucked, some booring goa and really bad stuff aswell. There where like 6 decent tunes in that compo. The intro would've been quite cool if the bigscreen would've been a bigscreen, the poor organizers didn't get the projecter they first had been promised (shame on you, stupid sponsor!) and therefor it sucked. You could not see anything less than 3 pixels wide, so lotsa things was impossible to see, and the picture was really dark. This was a really bad thing for virne/coma and ste&xt, since their intros didn't get what they deserved. It was a good thing for noice's intro goatzilla though, since it had really bright colors (good tactics gnilk!). They won the intro compo :). Barbagubbe/woorlic came second. That intro sure rocked on the bigscreen, we all laughed :) During the democompo quite a lot of crap was shown, of course doomsdays demo was good (their last demo btw!), but they didn't show fucking borlaenge or vinyl! (vinyi=the demo I and spruce made). We ran away to the compocrew for some decent yelling. They said that the demos didn't work on their compomachine, then we said "Then you should've told us!". But we fixed the problem and recorded the demos on tape, but the compo was over and everybody was back by their own computers, so when showing those demos (and a third one) noone was watching. A shame, but that's life. The wild compo was kinda fun, "the lost princess" rocked! it was like a old movie, without sound and only music. And echo off's "nerdlife" was quite cool, but not far as cool as "remedy memories" and "echo off vs dreamhack" (from last year) was. They rocked! I'm getting tired of writing now, so I'll skip to the price ceremony. The finns rocked the price ceremony! the finns rocked the whole party! They were like, 20 finns :) And they all went up to the stage together each time some of them was called, so virne got called for his 64k intro, doomsday was for their demo (they won, of course), and some other guys for his tune. I placed 2nd in the mchn compo, yaay! The compocrew was kinda sucky though. They didn't CHOOSE tunes, they picked them randomly. yikes. But still, cryonics and noice had a great time together at the party, so it was fun and all that, I'll probably go '99 as well :) /Steffo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dreamhack '98 - Party of the Year (no thanks to organizers) Pre-words? I just had to write this party report. You know (I truly wish you know), there are parties and parties but sometimes a party remains in your memories as something special. I'm keen to believe that I will remember Dreamhack '98 after a long time very well - in a positive way. This report is only my point of view and I've surely already forgotten something because so many things happened during the party. But let's get now into the business... Going to the party: I started my party trip early in the thursdaymorning. I had to drive all across Finland 'cause I live quite near Russia in Eastern Finland (and Sweden, where Dreamhack was held is west from Finland - in case you didn't know). My first stop was at Kouvola after 350 km of driving where I was supposed to fetch Virne / COMA. When I arrived there he was still compiling his intro for the party and I was a bit worried about being late for our schedule. After hitting the road again the weather started to get ugly and near Helsinki (the capital of Finland, you uncivilized morons! :) it was raining so hard that we had to drive almost crawling speed in the motorway. In Helsinki we were still late and had some fearsome minutes in the railwaystation where we had to catch Duet / Embassy but didn't see the man anywhere. Luckily we found him. We also fetched SolarC / Refinition in western part of Helsinki. After that we drove to Turku and got there actually half an hour before our ferry (m/s Isabella) left the harbour. Lemming / Orange who was the last man coming to our car had already come there by train. In the ferry we did the most reasonable thing that one could do by going to the Tax-Free shop. But at the pay-desk the terrible truth stroke us. One had to be over 20 years old to buy beer! Oh, we were disappointed and angry. I think Virne was not satisfied as well because he was the only one in our car being over 20 and that fact lead to another one: He had to buy everything to us others. Sometimes it's just too mean to be so young. The others stayed in the cabin when I, Virne and Lemming decided to go to the bar. After drinking a beer or two and watching awful Irish dancers (no offence, you Irish ones) Virne left to cabin as well. One funny thing in that was that I and Lemming were the only one having a driving license and also the only one deciding to continue partying... But after three 58 years old women sit into our table and tried to seduce us we considered leaving the bar as a very good option. :) We headed upstairs into disco inferno. There were loads of under 18 years old sweet teens and some older guys trying to ruin their night. In some point the organizers drove all the people away because there was so many under-aged, I think. A rather good gesture, which got us to go into cabin before we were too drunk (to drive next day). In the morning we had to wake up definitely too early. The ferry arrived 6.45 am. at Stockholm and we had still 250 km left to drive to Borl„nge, where the party was held. You know, Stockholm is quite a big city and I've had my driving license just a year so it wasn't too comfortable to drive there for the first time. We got lost at first and wandered at the wrong direction. After finding the right path and heading back to the centrum it was already rush hour and I think we could have travelled faster by walking through the city than we did in the endless line of cars. Our next stop was at Uppsala, which is Sweden's most popular student city, I think. It was still quite early and finding a decent place where we could eat wasn't an easy job. (Actually only place opening at 9 am. was McDonalds :) We ended up going to a grocery store and buying some breakfast there. After a rather messy moment with our cheese, pastes and crispy breads we cleared our minds in a local cathedral which is more or less indescribable in many ways. You have to experience it yourself. (Like trying to translate our party slogan into English: It was cool - and we dig everything which is cool). The very first day: We arrived Borl„nge early in the afternoon. The other Finnish sceners were already there waiting for us. We listened to some 70's porno funk and disco (Saturday Night Fever and Bee Gees) and had our own little party outside the party hall. Nothing special happened but as it was getting darker the temperature of the air lowered quite rapidly. But getting in wasn't an easy job anymore while we all were more or less under influence of alcohol. The organizers weren't too friendly as well, they throwed eg. Duet out to the cold with only t-shirt on. But for some reason they also thought that I was sober and let me in. We did some research with Virne and some secret back door passages and elevators which were not locked. It wasn't too hard to find a way to one of the back doors and open it for all the others. It was just too bad that the alarm went on while our little rescue trip. :) The guys had found some key which perhaps something to do with the alarm, I don't know how we had activated it actually. The last room before the party hall was sleeping hall but just when we came to there a door opened and an organizer also walked in sleeping room. Others pretended sleeping, I just escaped to the party hall and crawled under a table for watching some demos on the screen. In some point I saw Thor / TPOLM and joined his company but soon the organizers found me and took me to the separate space where almost all the other Finns were already. We were told that we couldn't leave this place until tomorrow or all of us would have been kicked out. Okay, we stayed in our little Funky-Jail for that night and continued partying there. Damaq / Doomsday was throwing up blood but explained that there was nothing to worry about... Saturday Night Fever: I woke up in a terrible nausea, I just wonder why. Well, the others left to the city at the morning and continued against my headache and throwing reactions. In some point I met Beathawk and we basicly hang around all the day together. At 9 am. the 4ch music competition started. It was nothing else but crap. Beathawk's song was played, SolarC's not. He went to the organizers to complain about it directly and I went to bathroom because of my nausea. When coming back I heard that the multichannel music compo had started and they were playing my module. Cool! But what the fuck? Wasn't it playing all wrong? What was that shit coming out of the loudspeakers?!? Then I knew the reason: They were playing the modules with Gravis Ultrasound with hardware mixing. Fucking idiots! They had 2Mb size limit in the compo and they were playing the modules only with 1Mb of RAM. I complained about it and the organizers just said: "Oh, we didn't realize that, we're sorry." Well, my only consolation was that there were some about five other modules which were fucked up as well. :) Being a bit upset because of the lame music compos we just sat in the cafeteria and waited for the intro compo which started at 1 pm. The competition was late but it finally started - with Bel Wazoo which Psychic Symphony had given to me for to deliver to the party. The intro was accidentally shown under the name of Acid Rain, I hope PS wont kill me because of that.. The second intro was something cool, Bird-cage by Jamm R. But the organizers had fucked up again and the projector had so slim contrast and blurry picture that one couldn't see the intro well. In overall there were only five intros and only Jamm's intro was decent. A really lame compo, again. Then after a couple of hours it was time for the demo compos. The organizers tried to fix the problem with big screen but the picture didn't get any better. Only three Amiga demos were shown, nothing special in that compo, in PC demo compo the first entry was Keskeytetty Yhdynta by Damones and it was actually quite funny. Then a couple of crap demos and Doomsday's Off. I really liked Doomsday's demo though Damaq didn't like it at all.. A very good fairwell demo at least, it's just a shame they are quitting now the scene. After the compos we started to get quite wild again spent some time in our funky jail (voluntarily!). There were some swedish girls having Helloween party. Real cute ones actually.. There were some Jussi Bj”rling show (striptease dancing) in the city, I don't know if someone went there or not, 'cause I got quite tired in some point and had got cold last night. We made few little notes reading "HiRMU will get you!" and "Vote for us or we will kill you!" and wandered in the party hall spreading these notes and trying to make people understand which contributions were worth of voting. It didn't work well, most of the people didn't even have a votekey. Heck, what you can expect from a 1800 people party where 20% tops is going to vote? Well, I got really tired and went to a real sleeping hall this time to get some rest. Sunday, heading back to home: In the morning all the people were lost. Some of them were in the funky jail and nothing happened. McGurk / COMA had made several paper birds and had gave some of them to the female organizers. I tried to make one of those myself and succeeded after 20 minutes of hard wrestling with my fingers and brains. I just wonder how boring McGurk and others must have had, if they made tiny paper birds all night long. :) When the prize ceremony finally began (late as usual) we had gathered all our noisy people near to the stage having all kind of wicked plans. Damaq wasn't feeling very well and had one McDonalds bag in his hands ready to puke in it, but in the plan we thought how neat it would've been if he had puked in the stage while picking the prize. (Well, he didn't puke at all, if I remember right...) It went actually quite well with us. Both Beathawk's tunes weren't in top three, but I got second prize. When Virne left to pick Jamm's prize we all followed him dancing and playing 70's disco funk as loud as we could with our little casette player. When Embassy won the Amiga demo competition, we did the same again. And when Doomsday won the PC demo competition we all jumped to the stage and started to.. striptease! Well, we throwed only our t-shirts off, but the feeling was wild and the audience liked our little show, I think. A rather decent feeling, yes. :) Damaq was a bit disappointed. He didn't got any money but a P2 computer. So right after the prize ceremonies we got back on the stage and had our own auction. We borrowed organizers microphone so we could play our funk from the big loudspekers and attract people better (Lemming has a real talent as a salesman). Some guys who had won some network stuff sponsored by Cisco Systems tried to get rid of them as well. Finally the party was over and we were ready to head back Stockholm. Nothing special happened during the trip back there, we got lost only four times if I recall right. :) When we had got inside the ferry we all were tired, shitty and had our own kind of after-party feelings. We (I, Lemming, Virne and Razorback / Doomsday) decided to go sauna. And what a brilliant choice: Hardly no one else was in the sauna (there's always someone if there are Finns on board), warm bubble bath was there just for us and when we had bought cold ciders and sat in the bath feeling heavenly relaxed and good, I think there couldn't be any better way to be. Afterward, feeling faint and still good, we considered having something to eat a necessity that we couldn't miss. We ate in a Bar-B-Que restaurant chicken and beefs, drank some wine and ordered some cappucino afterwards feeling very different from what we had been a couple of last days. And then there's five guys sitting next to us and talking about Quake! I was once again too tired and next morning my cold had gotten just worse. Driving back to home through the Finland wasn't an easy job. Especially the last 350 kilometers without any company, feeling tired again, driving in the dark and so on.. Just imagine. But at last, late in the monday evening I was home, having probably the best party of the year behind. melwyn/acid rain -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ABORT '98 PARTY Abort '98 Party Official Invitation Text Held in Ljubljana/Slovenia On the 12th of December http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/ (check it out) Üßßß ßßß ßßÛÛßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÛ ßßßßß ßßß ßÛ Û ABORT98 Û ÜÛ ß ÛÜ ÛÛ ß ÛÜ ÜÛ ß ÛÜ ÛÛ ß ÛÜ ÛÛ ß ÛÜ ÛÛßÛ ÛÛßÛ Û Û ÛÜÜÜ ÜÜÜ ÜÜÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û Û Ü Ü Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û Û Û Ü Û ÛÛ Ü ÛÛ ÛÛ Ü ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Ü ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ßß ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û Û Û Û Û ÛÛ ÛÛ ÛÛ Ü ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Ü ÛÛ ÛÛ Û Ü ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û Ü Û Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û Û Û Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ Û ÛßßßßßßÛ Û Û ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Ü Ûß ßÛ Ü Ûß ÛÛ Û ÛÛ ÛÛ Û ÛÜÛÛ ÛÛÛÛ Û ß Û Ü ÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ ÛÜÜÜÜÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÜÜ ÜÜÛÜÜÜÜÜÜÛ Organized by Septic Productions & Others Contact address: Spi98@hotmail.com Text version: 1.10 (20. October 98) |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| INDEX: 0. CHANGES 1. OPENING WORDS 2. WHERE and WHEN? 3. MAIN ORGANIZERS & SPONSORS 4. ENTRANCE FEES & RESERVATIONS 5. COMPETITIONS 6. VOTING SYSTEM 7. PRIZES 8. OFFICIAL PARTY T-SHIRTS 9. HOW TO GET TO THE PARTY PLACE 10. CONTACT INFORMATION & FUTURE UPDATES |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 0.CHANGES Final date is known: 12th December! Voting system is decided (check section 6) Special hacking compo will be held (if interest ...) |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 1.OPENING WORDS WE ARE BACK! Last year Abort succeeded, more than 50 people showed up. now we are back and we are going to make it even better. The scene has changed quite a bit since last year. Some groups have died, some new have popped up, some people have left the scene, others are just getting involved. But no matter what happens, the scene goes on and that is what matters! After Abort97 this scene can call itself demo scene - first slovenian demos were presented at the party and they were quite good, but there is still a lot of space for improvements. Moreover we don't need to tell you that musicians are really on the strike. More and more of them are making better and better pieces of music that deserves to be listened to. That's the way to go! What we need is more fun, friendship and connection in the scene! So... Lets make the ANOTHER DEMO PARTY! Lets make Abort '98! And what is a demo party? A demo party is an event (party), when computer (art) enthusiasts come together, INTERACT, exchange IDEAS & knowledge, have a lot of FUN and COMPETE! Everyone and every group shows what he/she/it has done. Shows its demo, music and graphics and watch other people's artwork! You don't need to make any artwork that would compete with others, but it would be very nice of you if you did it! We hope we will be able to organiZe future Aborts (99,2000...), but this will only be possible if you show up at the party & participate in the competitions! This is a NON-COMMERCIAL event, all the income after paying bills will be spent on prizes! STAY TUNED FOR MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS INVITATION! |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 2. WHERE and WHEN? The Abort '98 will be held on the 12th December in Ljubljana/Slovenia at gallery Kapelica on Kersnikova 4, Ljubljana. (that is the same building as last year, but the place has changed) The party place will open around 12:00am and close sometime next morning! Address: Gallery Kapelica Kersnikova street 4 Ljubljana Slovenia Check the section 9. for more information on how to get there! Stay tuned for further versions of this invitation (in case of any changes). |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 3. MAIN ORGANIZERS & SPONSORS The main organizers, sorted in alphabetical order: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Real Name: alias/group ----------------------------------------------------------------- Damjan Cvetko Zobo/Septic Productions Blaz Novak Bjt/ Andraz Tori MinMax/Septic Productions Primoz Verdnik Demmas/X-seed ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Twilight Connection & Krokar (SPi) for making invitation intro, music etc. Thanks to X-seed for other help (t-shirt design...). We are also grateful to everyone that expressed different ideas, viewpoints and told us that what we are doing is good thing. :) We would also like to kill everyone else, but that can wait... :) Sponsors: none yet We hope we will get some, so we can give some nice prizes! If you have any good ideas about the party, tell us, we will gladly listen to them & if they are good, use them! Remember, this is YOUR party too! Contact E-mail address is Spi98@hotmail.com or you can find us often on IRC on irc-net in channel #scene.si! |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 4. ENTRANCE FEES & RESERVATIONS No entrance fee is planned. You'll get your table, electricity & access to voting computer(if there will be one) for free (but you have to report you are coming)! You have to bring SAFE cables for the electricity with you, network equipment is welcomed too. The non-alcoholic drinks will be sold all the time! Because there is a limited space available, you HAVE TO report you are coming to Spi98@hotmail.com, if you don't, it may happen, you won't get the table to put your computer and other equipment on! We would like to encourage you to bring your computer with you. Computers are very important part of the party, if you don't have one with you, you won't be able to show your work to your friends and have other fun during 'free' time. Don't forget to bring network cards & cables with you! Also electronic voting will be much easier if you'll have your own computer. |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 5. COMPETITIONS There will be some standard competitions and some special ones (surprise!). Because there is almost no interest in Amiga, Commodore & other compos, we will only held PC compos. If you have done your artwork on any other platform, you'll have to bring all necessary hardware with you if you want to show it to other people. If there will be enough interest in any other competition that is not described below, we will make additional compos! Every member can participate with ONE artwork in each competition. In demo competition every group can have as many entries as it wants. Entries must not be shown on any other party/competition before. Anything received after deadline, won't be competing, but it will be shown. There will be a deadline countdown! If there won't be enough entries for the competition, they will be showed /played, but they won't compete! If there will be too many entries in competition, organizers will make a pre-selection to lower the number of entries to reasonable amount. We will do it the best way we can but nobody is perfect. (preselection is expected in music competition) You'll have the opportunity to test your demo TWO TIMES on compo computer. If there will be too much interest in this, we don't know if it will be actually possible. But don't come just before deadline! By competing in any of Abort98 competitions you agree that WITHOUT your written permission following is true: Your artwork contributed to Abort98 is free for distribution over all types of media as long as it hasn't been changed in any way. Your artwork contributed to Abort98 can be used by Septic Productions for promotional use in sense of Internet, BBSes and CD-release distribution even if CD-release is charged. Your artwork contributed to Abort98 can be publicly shown all/any the time during the event including exhibition and post-event promotions. By this rules we will be able to promote the party in proper way! Also the organizers have right to remove any entry from the competition, if they think it is not suitable. Now back to the party organization... The party PC that will run everything: Processor: Pentium II 300Mhz Video card: One of ATI cards (fast enough) RAM: At least 32Mb Sound card: SoundBlaster AWE 64 Projector: ?? The maximum supported resolutions are 640x480x16M & 800x600x256! Higher resolutions will probably result in an ugly picture! The configuration is not finalized yet, watch out for further versions of this invitation text! Available system configuration will include full VBE 2.0 support! It will be possible to run Win95 demos too. Players used the for music compos: latest version of Cubic Player and Impulse Tracker! * PC DEMO COMPETITION -maximum size 4194304 bytes -it should run trough a batch file called START.BAT -pure animation files not accepted -maximum base memory requirement is 540Kb -maximum memory requirement is 16Mb -if it crashes, it is NOT showed again, but can still compete -maximum 15 minutes * PC 64Kb INTRO COMPETITION -all that was said for demo compo + -maximum size 65536 bytes -maximum 5 minutes -chances for this compo to take place are not good, if there won't be enough entries, it will be merged with the PC DEMO COMPO * MUSIC COMPETITION -there will be 2 or 3 sub compos in music competition -any format that is supported under latest Cubic Player by pascal or Impulse Tracker except MPEG & WAV (clear sound files not accepted) -maximum 4 minutes playing time, after that it will be faded out * GRAPHICS COMPETITION -max. 640x480x16M -viewer will be .... ? -accepted formats: PCX, LBM, GIF, BMP, JPG -You must add 3 significative steps of making the picture -picture mustn't be used anytime before in any compo, except on Abort '98 * RAYTRACE GRAPHICS COMPETITION -all rules like for the graphics compo except it has to be made in one of raytracing programs -3 steps of constructing must be added! (not different types of shading!) * It is possible that both graphic competitions will be merged! * ANSI/ASCII COMPETITION -max 80x200 ANSI/ASCII -it has to be made for 80x25 or 80x50 mode -will be shown with latest ANSIDRAW -no animation * WILD THING -anything allowed -bring ALL NECESSARY equipment with you (VCRs, Lightshows... :) * SURPRISE COMPOS -be prepared for everything :) * SPECIAL 'HACKING' COMPO -try to break into the voting system... -some texts about how voting will work will be released, your job is to tell us what is the secret message (mail to spi98@hotmail.com for detailed description of what this compo will be) Please include information about every product in product.nfo file! |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 6. VOTING SYSTEM There will be local TCP network organized at the party (Bjt is in charge of this). There will be http (web) server available with voting program in Java... You will be able to vote from all machines connected to local network (yours for example) and from dedicated machines (for those who won't bring their computer with them). Every person will get his username and password on entrance (He'll have to have personal ID or some other kind of identification) |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 7. PRIZES We don't know if there will be any money for prizes left, and if we will get more sponsors, so we can't promise anything! But if there will be prizes, they will be given to the winners at the end of the party. We expect to give out symbolic prizes only.. Anyway... Scene's not for money & other prizes! IT'S FOR FUN, FAME AND GLORY |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 8. OFFICIAL PARTY T-SHIRTS There will be a limited number of T-shirts available. They'll have nice Abort98 logos on them. Because we don't know how many we will sell, you have to reserve some for you and your friends to get them for sure, write to Spi98@hotmail.com. They will be sold at the price of 1000SIT (7 USD)! The price is not fixed, we don't know exactly how much they'll cost! |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 9. HOW TO GET TO THE PARTY PLACE Scanned pictures of Ljubljana/Center (K4, main train station, main bus station, main roads) can be found at this URL: http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/ Party place is only about 600m away from main train/bus station. If your are arriving to that station, we can send someone there and he'll guide you to the party place (contact us on Spi98@hotmail.com for this option) |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 10. CONTACT INFORMATION & FUTURE UPDATES E-mail: Spi98@hotmail.com WWW: http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/ BBS: Digital Force STAY TUNED FOR MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS INVITATION MIND OVER MATTER THE ART OVER MIND, AND FREEDOM OVER EVERYTHING -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --------------------------------- SATELLITE '98 Official Results PC --------------------------------- PC Demo: 1. "Cystic Fibrosis" Neurogen 2. "People" Pengo 3. "Drill" Defect PC 4k Intro: 1. "Trace Your Mind 2" Suspend 2. "Global Warming" Vardin/Ind 3. "Emphasis" Toxic Karrotz 4. "Rose" Antidothum PC 64k Intro: 1. "Front Page" Suspend 2. "Transform" Dimension "Overflow" Korozone [turn down - VESA 24 bit problems] Any questions send to (only PC compos): VIP@rubikon.net.pl 0501144157 ICQ: 5669071 Party organizer contact: madbart@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl 0601534875 ICQ: 16255810 Full results sheet will be post later on the appendix website, feel free to check up this: http://APPENDIX.ml.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Demojournal compo#2: Subject: this time it's a chip-tune compo! Objective: Do a Simpsons tune remix below 32k! mod,s3m,xm or it modes are supported! No compression! 32k uncompressed size limit! Competing: Do your tune with whatever sample and instruments you come across, really doesn't matter! The tune must clearly have the simpsons tune in there somewhere... How it sounds is up to you. Deadline: Send your entry until december 1st to this mail: ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt subject: compo#2 entry Judging: I will judge the tunes based down mainly on originality! Any entry will be disqualified if: -Exceeds 32k limit uncompressed! -Doesn't have the simpsons tune basics in-built! Prizes: None whatsoever! Do it for the fun! Results: Will be announced asap! After december 1st! Releases: The whole entries will be released together on the normal scene ftp's so look sharp for demo98c2.zip! Final word: Hope i gave you a motive to track! Psychic Symphony ---------- ------| 16.END |--------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- This is it! 13th demojournal finished! I think this is one of the best issues ever! Member list grew a lot! Awesome interview, lots of articles and info. Hope you all enjoyed it! As i already said in the begining, i'm taking a break to the real life for a couple of weeks, szum/cryogen will be taking over so please don't give him a hard time! Don't flood the account a lot and don't send any zip/rar/lha archives since they need to be forwarded to another mail for download! See you all in a couple of weeks! Psychic Symphony - ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt Send stuff for next issue to: demojournal@hotmail.com