Demojournal issue: #8 date: 12/october/1998 subscribers: 60 + 3 group mailing lists 1.Editorial 2.Demonews 3.Thought of the week 4.Party on! 5.Interview of the week 6.Demo of the week 7.Intro of the week 8.MOD of the week 9.Commercial break 10.Quote of the week 11.Charts 12.Demoscener (A-Z) 13.Articles: Demojournal compo #1 information Active writter 14.END --------------- ------| 1.Editorial |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- This newsletter is public property, that means anyone is free to send articles, news and others for posting! I would appreciate it even. I'm only putting the pieces together. It's our scene! let's make things happen... Little correction to last week's issue: date was 6 OCTOBER 1998 and further down on the charts it was because september was over and not august. I was a little confused on the months apparently! ;) For this issue we have a 1 hour interview with sol/trauma and that's pretty much it! Adok also sent some news so you can see him take over Dave's news section. hehe BTW- It was Adok's birthday last week in case you haven't noticed on the interview... Your still in time to send him articles for Hugi#13 so please do take some time to wrap up your presents before emailing them to him at Psychic Symphony -------------- ------| 2.Demonews |----------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Hugi has got a new member! Zippy /The Utopians^Utopia has joined the Hugi Crew as a writer, spreader and coder. He comes from Norway and is also the president of the "keep-the-scene-alive"-organisation The Utopians. His e-mail adress is demoscener@hotmail.com, homepage of The Utopians: http://bigfoot.stones.com/~zippy/. Currently he is working on several articles for Hugi #13. - Hugi Logo Competition! The IRC channel #pixel (http://www.pixel.scene.org) is organizing a Hugi logo competition. You have to draw either a title or a closing picture for Hugi. The first and perhaps also the second place will be used in Hugi #14 (as the gfx for Hugi #13 is already finished). The other places will be shown at the gallery of the #pixel-homepage. http://www.pixel.scene.org - HUGI #12 is available at: http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/ The world's most popular active diskmag. Freeware. adok/hugi - hugi main editor - hugi size coding compo organizer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= No news this week! Oh yeah... Cache98 is on the way at hungary! And recently discovered (actually Adok told me about it... :) evroparti'98 in sweden is also probably beeing held! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Psychic Symphony -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= md / fm - appelsap - http://www.fm.org/appelsap/ (mp3 / realaudio / qt3 album) tpolm.scene.org "UPDATED HOMEPAGES" Distance -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (...) some newsflashes from the dutch scene... First of all a scene-meeting will be organized in November in the Netherlands called the Nederkomst. It's not a real demoparty, but more of a boozing party where you can meet your friends. People can go to http://nederkomst.infuse.org if they want more info (page is in dutch I think). Second of all Multiplex of Cheese Team and me are organizing a bustrip to The Party '98 from the Netherlands. For more information people can go to http://www.wxs.nl/~mux (also in dutch). mark (sparcus/nostalgia) ------------------------- ------| 3.Thought of the week |------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- Better stop writing and deleting stupid news and get on with the bloody demojournal... Nothing happened this week you idiot, stop inventing news! You only waste time deleting them 2 minutes later! Finish this darn issue already.. --------------- ------| 4.Party on! |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Starts: Ends: Country: Name: Contact: Oct 02 - Oct 05, 1998 Norway The Convention 1998 www.convention.com Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1998 Hungary CaCHe II '98 www.datanet.hu/cache98 Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1998 Sweden evroparti '98 http://come.to/evroparti (x) Is it a blob? Is it a plane? Is it superman? NO! It's your time location! Oct 1998 Hungary JuMPer '98 Oct 1998 Hungary ReFLeX '98 http://www.nexus.hu/slsp Oct 28 - Oct 31, 1998 Sweden Compusphere X http://www.compusphere.org Oct 29 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden DreamHack '98 http://www.dreamhack.org Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden ACG-Hack X http://hack.amiga-cg.se Nov 1998 Slovenia Abort '98 Nov 07 - Nov 08, 1998 Poland Satellite '98 madbart@jormas.com Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Germany Dialogos '98 http://www.kassablanca.de/dialogos98 Dec 1998 Israel Movement '98 Dec 19 - Dec 20, 1998 Romania Dracula '98 Dec 25 - Dec 27, 1998 Argentina The Flash '98 theflashparty.home.ml.org Dec 27 - Dec 29, 1998 Denmark The Party 1998 http://www.theparty.dk Mar 1999 Italy Trip 99 Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway The Gathering '99 Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany Mekka & Symp. 2k-1 http://ms.demo.org May 29 - May 30, 1999 Germany Komso/Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden Remedy '99 http://www.remedy.nu --------------------------- ------| 5.Interview of the week |---------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Psychic Symphony slaughters another victim. This time it's Sol/Trauma. first up introduce yourself... name, age, that kind of stuff ok.. most people seem to know me as Sol of Trauma.. my real name is Jari Komppa. I'm 23 years old, and well.. working as a ""web designer"" currently. and for the people who have been in cryogenic sleep for at least 3 years, what do you do scene-wise? I'm responsible for at least the 'dee' musicdisk interface 'hors', some invitation demos.. textmode demo compos (third one starting tomorrow or so actually).. additionally I've been leading trauma demo projects, 'mindtrap' from army and 'gateways' as a full-day job.. ..as I couldn't find a summerjob this summer. in gateways you wrote you probably wouldnt do such a big project ever again... was that in the heat of the moment or does it still stand? wellll.. I can't promise anything, but we have some grandiloquent ideas again.. for tp98? or still unaimed? ..as I wrote in the text, we all have too many 'real life' things going on, so we really can't get anything serious done to tp98. probably to asm99.. :( ... :) you been around for a long time now... is there any special memories of the old days you would like to revive? Not really =) The first party I was at was Mega-Leif Convention in uppsala, sweeden.. that happened couple months before asm92.. FC released 'fishtro' there. If I recall right, it was a 4-day party.. or 5.. anyway, it's kinda hazy as I didn't eat enough and drank too much coke (seriously! I don't drink any alcohol or do drugs).. hum. that reminds me of my belgium experience but no one would care about that so... moving on... so you went to asm92? yep with hysteric overload. and... and we came second to 'unreal'. cool! actually, we were the only ones to get votes.. really? probably since sorcerers didn't want to vote FC =) how was the voting system back then? only number 1? I don't know what the voting system was, actually. the amiga organizers got too drunk and pehu tried to organize "something".. I guess it was just number one, but I don't know how the votes were cast. the PC side of the party was so small that the pc compo was held in an auditorium with a monitor.. really? hum... I find it rather funny that people think that crystal dreams was released there.. cd was released earlier in the same year at the gathering if I recall correctly. i wouldnt know... dont ask me... :P how many demos did enter the compo at asm92? Oh, five or so. EMF had a demo there.. and some napalm something group as well. and what happened from there on? like what? =) your life... what happened... next project! Oh well. Hysteria had several demo projects and member statuses as the time went on.. ..nothing got finished tho. until... :) until '94 hysteria released 'silence'. (btw, at next assembly it'll be FIVE YEARS AFTER SILENCE for hysteria =) After that hysteria really got quite silent. humm... that means asm99 demo will be called silence 2? Uh no =) hysteria is still quite silent I think =) who were the members of hysteria at the time? ..found it Jan Ruusuvuori aka Hammerhead (and my current boss btw, hi there!) Matias Dahl aka Opt Reijo Sund aka Rex Petteri Kaski aka void Toni Lonnberg aka Cube, and of course me. As for opt, last I heard he was some kind of system administrator or something and rex is studying to become a lawyer or something. why do you finn groups all have big lists? big? trauma has 10 members =) dubius had 2 members for a long time.. let me think... future crew, byterapers, orange, doomsday btw, tAAt has 100 members.. probably more. but that's another story =) TPOLM FC is a "normal" sized group.. byterapers are just bunch of people drinking together.. orange grew too large and became inactive as nobody did anything, and as for doomsday, well.. enough... lets talk about you... thats why i am here... :) how was it like to see things evolve from 386 to pentium? As I never bothered to learn assembler, very refreshing =) and that's from 286 to pentium actually.. the scene hangs on to the ancient history too much in my opinion.. let's take GUS for example. i dont have a gus i dont enjoy intros! there's an example! when it was new, it was something new and cool, but now it's just a limiting piece of shit. I don't have gus installed currently either.. but you dont need drivers! :) you do but... I'm still keeping gus on the requirements list in tmdc rules just to let all sceneers see the demos. you might be wondering why I'm talking about new stuff and textmode in such a short time.. =) announce away! well. its your interview... i just exist! Someone in pulse said that after you figure out the putpixel, there's no point in textmode, right.. okay. so after *(char*)(0xa0000+x+y*320)=c; there's no point to mcga then. as I see it, there's stuff that can be done in textmode that hasn't been done before. textmode has always been thought as a beginners' media (except that today's beginners don't even know it exists, I guess).. and take a pII/300 and try to use its processing power completely while rendering to textmode.. and make it look good. that's what I'm after. hehe... i know it exists and im a rather begginer... you should interview yourself to the next issue =) i though so about mode13h aswell... until i tried to calculate 3*64000 pixels per frame... sorry... carry on... 3*64000 ? =) that sounds like 24b 320x200 to me =) Oh well, I should go to sauna. I'll write some article about tmdc3 to you soon.. like, in a week or so. ok! a couple more questions for the final wrap then... ok what's it like working with some of the best musicians on the scene? oh dear =) it's generally easiest just to be happy about what they do than to ask them to do something specific =) but I have to say that most of the transition ideas etc comes from listening to the music, and their music just happens to inspire me =) what about gfx wise? We don't have too many graphicians as you know.. so it's painful that we cannot get everything done by "real" graphicians.. Also, excel (hi there!) is sweedish and thus we have slight communication problems from time to time =) what about working with some of the best coders? working with yourself must be a drag... Well, I *really* don't rank myself as one of "the best coders".. =) dont be modest now... but working with other trauma coders is quite painless after project guidelines (interfaces &c) has been set.. changing subject... what did you think about the very last asm98 then? you think you deserved 1st place? organizing was just-about flawless. well.. I don't like joke demos (hannu&kerttu2k etc).. and the megafamegroups just released artycrap.. #define artycrap "some over-artish thing that had to be wrapped up within the last 6 hours as we couldn't think of anything else" is that aimed to the pulse demos? no.. ok... but the one pulse demo (and cncd and byterapers as well) were just too simple.. sexadelic wasnt simple! sexadelic was a very good demo! oh well. =) my opinion... you think i talk to much dont you? everybody does... :P oh well... Well, as someone said, gateways was the least bad demo at asm demo compo =) what about giger by recreation i believe... it was a very good demo! very nice indeed and very similar (in style) to gateways! I think it would have deserved better place, but my opinion is a bit biased by the fact that spector is in trauma as well. ok! you feel like doing a think fast? or is that enough for one day? well, hit me, I'm already in a bit of a hurry =) first demo (already answered but...) my first demo? tech my magnetic rebellion. by even not my hop hop best demo in general or mine? you choose! :) in general I'd say 303, mine, definitely gateways. I'll have to run off to sauna now.. be sure to check the trauma pages (http://sauna.net/trauma) for more backgrounders =) thx for the time! l8er *** Sol_HSA has quit IRC (zwhing) One of the best interviews so far i have conducted! :) I am very pleased with this one! Big thanks to sol for his patience! ---------------------- ------| 6.Demo of the week |--------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- 'Gateways' by Trauma And the list goes like this: Sol, Tonic, Tremor, !Cube, Nitro, Excel, Teque, Spector, void and Assassin. Winner of Assembly'98 democompo. What can i write... It's nothing fancy but it does look great! Mainly 3D scenes with some rather good scenes here and there! The music is very good. The graphics, although not bountifull are also very pleasant to the eye. Code and design are definitly the key ingredients that made this one triumph at assembly. On code, special mention to the very nice 3D fractal at the end! And on design, attention to the 'retin scanner' effect! Very nice indeed. That's about it! There is nothing wrong with this demo, it just lacks a certain something in my opinion... But what do i know? :) Psychic Symphony ----------------------- ------| 7.Intro of the week |-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- 'Supermacy' by Sublogic+Inf Code: Kravitz/sublogic Music: Dreamer/sublogic Graphics: TMK/Inf 8th from 19 at The Party 1997 64k intro competition. Nice graphics from tmk. A small texture. A little tune. Some coding experience and we have ourselves a new intro! =) Mostly grayscaled pallete. Yet this one has something that grabbed my attention. Maybe it's just because i have been testing some similar effects! Anyways... Nice intro. Go get it if you own a GUS. Psychic Symphony --------------------- ------| 8.MOD of the week |---------------------------------------------------- --------------------- zumthin!.xm / mvp_0015.zip available at moplayaz.ml.org "zumthin' up there" by mad e + fanu / moplayaz dope hardstep track - renegade-bassline, overdriven but nevertheless tricky drumloops (most of which familiar, though) and a unique way of using the jungle-warfare-strings.. though the other tracks in the archive suck compared to this one, it's nevertheless worth the download imho !.. or as teis (the mvp organizer) would say : "last but not least the phat A side wich we come atchya with our fellahz mad-e and fanu bringin you some real fine ass hardstep to yo damn house starting with a dark bassline and scary sounds .. continueing with douph beatz, filled up with nice strings. and yes, at almost the end the both come up with really nice string melodies makin this track to some weird thought' bout upthere.. ;) ... mad-e'n fanu, tell me, what's up there!!!" hmm ;) vim's newest release on mono is also definitely worth a listen, btw.. assign@www.tdr.scene.org ----------------------- ------| 9.Commercial break! |-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- ._______________________________________ | ______ | ________|__ \ / | __________\ _ / o ______( )_ o | ____ _/ \\// /_ - _\ \ / - | \__ \\ \/_______/----------\______\ /-------------' (__\\ \ _ \__//\ \____________\ "¯"¾x. ,¾%%x: ,,__ /__\ h7 _ __ ___ ,¾¾l l¾¾· :¾¾l ___ __ _ \\(( \--------------------,x¾×'---- ¾¾¾ l¾¾: -----------------/ ))// \_ ,x¾×' .¾¾l ¾¾¾. _/ : ,%¾×' ¾¾ :¾¾: ¾¾¾ . ¾¾X...___i¾l l¾¾ :¾¾¾ m o n o 2 1 1 """'''''^^^: """ l¾¾l [.mono211.eklektikelektronikmusik.] [....http://www.scene.org/mono....] ²ÛÛÛ ²ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÝßßßß ²ÛÛÛÝ° ²ÛÛÛÝ° ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛݲÛÛÛÝÛÛÛÛÝ ²ÛÛÛÛÜÛÛÛÛÝ ²ÝÛÛÛÝßÞÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛݲÛÛÛÝ²Ý ²ÛÛÛÝ ²ÛÛÛÛÝ http://milk.sgic.fi ßßß ÞÛÛÝ Ü ÛÛÛ ÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜ ÞÛÛÝ ß ÜÜÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÜÜ Ûßßßß ÛÛÛ ÜÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÜ Ü ÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛÜÜ ° °²²ÛÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ ß ÜÜ ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ²Û²²²°° ° ßÛÛÜ ßÛÛÜ ßßßÛÛÛßßß Üß ÛÛÛÛ ÛÛÜ ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ ÜÛÛÛÝ ts ÞÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ ÜÛß ÞÛÛÛ ÞÛßß ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛß ßÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÝ ÜÛÛÛÛß ÜÜÜÛÛÝ ÜÛßßßÛÜ ÛÛÛÜßßÛÜ ßÛÛÜ ÞÛÛÝßß ßÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÝ ÛÛÛ ÞÛÝ ÞÛÝ ÞÛÛÝ ßÛÜ ßßÛÜÜÜÜÜÛÛÛÜ ßßßÛÛ ² ÛÛÛ ° ß²ÜÜÜÛß ° ÛÛÛ ß ÜÛÛß ÛÜÛß Ü² ² ÞÛÛÝ ß ÞÛÛ t o k y o ² ÛÛÜ ÜÛ ÛÛÛ ß ßßßßß² d a w n ùùÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ° Ä ßßÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛßß Ä ÞÛÛÝ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ ßÜÜ ° Ä ° r e c o r d s ÄÄÄÄÄùù ÛÛ²°° ° ßß² ÞÛÛÝ Ü ÛÛÛ ÞÛÛÝ http://tdr.scene.org ÛÛÛ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ we love tpolm. $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$ $$$$ http://tpolm.scene.org --> "UPDATED HOMEPAGES" <-- http://geecs.org/~nico <--- for a complete mental experience < - - - - - - - -> ./ P@lS3C@M msx group da music : post_industrial da sounds : ambient_experimental da noise : avant_garde ...palsecam /. 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THEY DIDN'T TAKE ME!!!!!!!!! Sol/Trauma Context: When i first started interviewing him with 130 seconds lag! Q: Tell us about you, name, age, shoe size, alien origins... Then we changed to irc.scene.org and lag got lower and so i restarted harassing sol and forgot about the aliens! :) Adok: Just in case you were wondering why there was nothing about aliens on this week's interview! ;) ------------- ------| 11.Charts |------------------------------------------------------------ ------------- Vote for the latest kickass production! Stuff you have just seen or heard that is really cool! Some people keep on voting for the best ever even if there are new awesome productions! Just answer back something like: pulse/shad/paper/mr.sex/falcon/made Thank you in advance! Group: Pulse.................................. (6) Purple................................. (2) Doomsday............................... (2) CNCD................................... (2) Blasphemy.............................. (1) Quad................................... (1) Complex................................ (1) Orange................................. (1) Halcyon................................ (1) FiT.................................... (1) Knights................................ (1) Nerve Axis............................. (1) Cocoon................................. (1) Demo: Shad....................Cocoon^Syndrome (3) Sexadelic....................Byterapers (2) Hyperventilation.............Byterapers (2) The Fulcrum......................Matrix (2) Tribes............................Pulse (1) Stigma.........................Doomsday (1) Boost: vivid part 2............Doomsday (1) Dis.............................Mandula (1) Saint...........................Halcyon (1) Automaton Flavour..............Hellcore (1) Tour..............................Pulse (1) Styler 2............................... (1) Anataus 5 (linux)...................FiT (1) Rise...................TRSI^Mellowchips (1) Intro: Paper........................statix+vic (4) Pager 11..........................Fudge (3) Sin(x)...........................Dawn 3 (2) Clone meets clone..................ACME (1) Jizz....................The Black Lotus (1) Stash...................The Black Lotus (1) Deesbab..........................Orange (1) Wolfenstein 3D.................Pointman (1) Mesha.............................Rhyme (1) Code: Mr.Sex.......................Byterapers (4) Unreal....................,..CNCD^Pulse (4) Mrock..........................Hellcore (2) Statix.........................Lionhead (2) Echo..............................Fudge (1) Skal...............................Bomb (1) Marq................................FiT (1) Buckshag...................Superstition (1) Picard............................Rhyme (1) Virne..............................COMA (1) Plash.................................. (1) Music: Falcon............................Pulse (4) Mindwalker.....................Suburban (2) Groo...............................CNCD (2) CareBear...............Orange & Komplex (2) Dune.............................Orange (1) Revisq............................Monar (1) Bartesek............................... (1) Shad................................... (1) Smash................Beam^Noise^Nothing (1) Xafax.................................. (1) Croaker...........................TPOLM (1) Graphics: Made...............................Bomb (5) Lazur.............................Pulse (3) Ra..................................... (2) Kobold................................. (2) Pike................................... (1) Iceball................................ (1) Acryl...........................Scoopex (1) Louie.................................. (1) Grass.................................. (1) Peachy................................. (1) Cereal........................Ooze labs (1) Sunday................................. (1) ----------------- ------| 12.Demoscener |-------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- This is supposed to be a list of all currently active demosceners! Warn if there is something wrong or missing! Name: Country: What: Group: 216..............fi...........Code...............MFX Aap..............nl...........Gfx................ACME Abyss............fi..............................Future Crew Access...........be..............................Pulpe Acryl............de...........Gfx^Music..........Scoopex Action........................Code...............Virtual Visions Adok.............at...........Editor.............Hugi aGi..............pl...........Gfx................INTerror Andr0meda........be...........Code^Music.........Green Angel............pl...........Gfx................Tatanka Antony...........fr...........Gfx................Pulse Aragorn.......................Code...............Chalice Asphyx...........fr...........Gfx................ Assassin.........fi...........Swapper............Trauma Assign...........de...........Music..............Ethos9^Tokyo Dawn Atom.............pl...........Swapper............Platoon Aurelius.........de...........Code...............Matrix Azure............sl...........Gfx................Dilemma^Byteway A-Move...........de...........Music..............Amable^Tokyo Dawn Baloo............sw...........Gfx................Blocc Balrog........................Music..............KFMF Banshik..........pl...........Code...............Byteway Barbatron........sw...........Code...............Syntax Terror Barbecue.........dk...........Code...............Purple Baxter...........be...........Editor^Code^Music..Green Binar............pl...........Swapper^Ascii......Korozone^Chloride^VP Bitcoder.........pt...........Code...............Radioactive Design Blade............sp..............................The Utopians^Los Centoros Bonnie...........fr...........Gfx................HCL Borlot...........pl...........Code...............Majorca Team Brain Power......pt...........Code...............Dawn 3 Brainsaw.........nl..............................SuccesS Brix.............hu...........Code...............Dilemma Byter............dn..............................Blasphemy Carebear.........fi...........Music..............Orange Carlos...........hu...........Music..............Breeze^Mandula Case.............pl...........Swapper............Revelation Cheetah..........................................Ephidrena Clef.............au...........Music.............. Clifford M.......pl...........Gfx................ExMortis^MFX Core-nick........pl...........Music..............Tatanka Corona...........be...........Code...............Green CpC..............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs Cremax...........pt...........Code...............Nothing Croaker..........fi...........Code^Music.........TPOLM Crossbone........de...........Code...............Suburban Creations !Cube............fi...........Music^Gfx^Code.....Trauma Cyberfish........no...........Code...............The Lost Souls Cyclops..........be...........Gfx................Fuel^Quad Cyg..............fr...........Code...............BlaBla Dake.............ch...........Code...............Calodox Damaq............fi...........Gfx................Doomsday Damien...........be..............................Imphobia Danube...........fr...........Gfx................HCL Darkflare........pt...........Gfx................ActiveFuel Darkness.........be...........Editor.............Imphobia Dave.............sp...........Code...............Phymosys Dave.............pl...........Music..............Haujobb Deansdale........hu...........Music..............Exceed Delirium.........pt...........Music..............ActiveFuel Deyi.............be...........Code...............Itsari Diabolo..........fr...........Code...............HCL Digisnap.........de...........Code...............Matrix Distance.........fi...........Music..............TPOLM^monotonik^lackluster Dixan............fi...........Music..............Chalice Dizzy............ch...........Music.............. Djamm............fr...........Music..............Nomad^Bomb^Ribbon D-lee............hu..............................Exceed DreamDancer......de...........Gfx^Swapper........Nwo Wolfpack^Role Dreamer..........fi...........Music..............Sublogic Dune.............fi...........Music..............Orange Echo.............dk...........Code...............Fudge Echo.............pl...........Music..............Diffusion Eclipse..........fr...........Code^Editor........Knights^Lichty's Concept Ellyn............pl...........Code...............Ex-Mortis^MFX Euphoria.........au...........Gfx................f00d Excel............fi...........Gfx................Trauma Ez...............it...........Music..............Deathstar Ezah.............hu...........Gfx^Editor.........Dilemma Fear.............fi...........Code...............The Black Lotus Filozof..........pl...........Ascii..............Konzept Fitzroy..........pl...........Ascii..............IPC^Enenzi Flan.............fr...........Gfx................ Flex.............sw...........Code...............Blocc Fndr.............sw...........Gfx^Code........... Frame............sw...........Gfx................C-lous Fred.............ch...........Editor.............Calodox Fred.............pl...........Gfx................INTerror Gandalf..........fr..............................Pulse Ganja Man........uk...........Music..............LoK Garfield.........pl...........Editor.............Core^IPC^LO 2+7 Garfield.........pt...........Music^Code.........Radioactive Design G-day............nl...........Music..............Quad Goblin...........au...........Code...............Xtatic Gongo............be...........Code...............Green Goofy............sw...........Editor.............Replay Gooroo...........ca...........Code...............KFMF Graff............pl...........Music..............Tatanka Greenpix7........ru...........Gfx................Universe gTg..............pl...........Code...............Tatanka Guille...........fr...........Code...............Cocoon Gyr..............au...........Code...............f00d Hager............hu...........Swapper............Profuse Harlequin........nl...........Gfx^Music..........SuccesS Hate.............pl...........Swapper^Editor.....Prism^Core^Scream HeY..............pl...........Code^Editor........Tatanka Hoplite..........fi...........Code...............Orange Hunz.............au...........Music..............Five Musicians Hyp-X............hu...........Code...............Mandula Idiotboy.........us...........Code...............Plastik Productions^Evolve Incubus..........pl...........Code...............Prism Infinite Reboot..be...........Code...............Fuel Imode............hawaii.......Music..............Exceed^Sound Devotion Inopia...........................................Quad Jace.............nl...........Code...............The Black Lotus Java.............sw...........Gfx................Cryonics Jax..............pl...........Music..............Korozone Jim Goer.........pl...........Code...............Grinders Kal..............hu...........Gfx................Astroidea Kal-Min-Do.......fr...........Music..............HCL Keith303.........de...........Code...............Radical Rhythms^Tokyo Dawn KeyG.............pl...........Music..............Pulse Kidlove..........de...........Gfx................Haujobb Kneebitter.......us...........Code...............Threesome Koan.............pl...........Code...............Giraffe Kombat...........il...........Code...............Immortals Kravitz..........fi...........Code...............Sublogic Kurt.............be...........Code...............Green Lando............pl...........Swapper............Konzept Lazur............pl...........Gfx................Pulse Lebeau/Legend....fi...........Music..............CNCD Legend...........au...........Music..............The Vault Lexus............pl...........Editor.............Enenzi Liam The Lemming.uk...........Music..............KFMF Lucky............pl...........Gfx................Pulse^Poison Luk..............pl...........Music..............Procreation Made.............fr...........Gfx................Bomb Magnesium........au...........Code^Music.........LaTeX Mandrixx.........fr...........Code............... Marq..........................Code...............FiT Marquis..........de...........Music^Swapper......Platoon Marvel...........fi...........Gfx................Future Crew Masterboy........il...........Code............... Max..............pl...........Gfx................Defect^Cryogen Melcom...........de...........Music^Code......... Mellow-D.........be^fi........Music..............TPOLM^Five Musicians Melwyn...........fi...........Music..............Acid Rain Mentz............de...........Music..............LoK^Tokyo Dawn Mercure..........fr.............................. Micron...........fi..............................Byterapers Inc. Mike.............fi...........Gfx................Byterapers Inc. Mindwalker.......pt...........Music..............Suburban Creations Misha............pl...........Gfx^Editor.........Tatanka^Defect^Nothing Miss Saigon......us^fi........Music..............Threesome Mosh.............fi...........Music..............Forsaken Morphine.........dn...........Music..............Blasphemy Mov..............fi..............................Radio MRI..............fi...........Code...............Doomsday Mr.Sex...........fi...........Code...............Byterapers Inc. Mr.Z.............hu...........Code...............Astroidea MZ...............au.............................. NamNam...........sw...........Gfx................Blocc Nap..............hu...........Code...............Dilemma Neek.............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs Nemesulku........fi...........Gfx................Acid Rain Nephoo...........pl...........Code...............Korozone Nero.............de...........Gfx................Matrix Nik..............be...........Gfx................Green Nitro............fi...........Music..............Trauma Nix...........................Code...............The Black Lotus Nns..............hu...........Code...............Exceed Nobody...........fi...........Music..............Wild Light Nytrik...........fr...........Gfx................Cocoon Optic............no...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn^TRSI orOme............no...........Gfx................Astroidea Pancho...........pl...........Gfx................Platoon^IPC Paniq............de...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn Particle......................Gfx................ Patapom..........fr...........Code...............Bomb Pearl Hunter.....................................The Utopians Picard...........hu...........Code...............Rhyme Pitbull..........de...........Code...............Imphobia Pixel............fi...........Gfx................Future Crew PL...............be...........Gfx................Imphobia Programmed.......pt...........Code...............ActiveFuel Programmer.......ru...........Code^Editor........Universe Psychic Symphony.pt...........Code...............Evolve^The Utopians^ActiveFuel Pyshtoff.........pl...........Code...............Tatanka Quartz...........fi...........Code...............Chalice Quasar...........be...........Code...............Green Raiden...........pl...........Music..............Aural Planet Radi.............pl...........3 headed monkey....INTerror Rascy............hu...........Modeller...........Dilemma React............hu...........Code...............Exceed Rents............pt...........Gfx................Dawn 3 Reptile..........hu...........Music..............Astroidea Rod..............hu...........Code...............Mandula Rodex............fi...........Code............... Rommel...........no...........Swapper............Revelation Sagacity.........nl...........Code...............Quad SamSam...........................................Quad Sandworm.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe Sarix............nl..............................Quad Scorpio..........pt...........Code............... Scorpik..........pl...........Music..............Pulse Screamager.......luxemburg^uk.Music..............KFMF Sed..............hu...........Music..............Dilemma Shade............hu...........Music..............Dilemma Sharon...........de...........Code...............Matrix Shaman...........hu...........Music^Ansi.........Exceed Shiva............de...........Code...............Kolor Shock............au...........Code...............Xtatic^Dimension^Ramjam^Evolve Skal.............fr...........Code...............Bomb Skin.............................................Quad Skrig............dk...........Gfx................Prone Skyphos..........de...........Music..............Matrix Simon King!......pl...........Ascii..............Procreation^Fuse Sly Spy..........hu...........Music..............United Force^Capan¤a Slyde............dk...........Code...............Blasphemy Snowman..........us..............................Hornet Smash............uk...........Music..............Nothing Sol..............fi...........Code...............Trauma Soulless.........pl...........Gfx................Norferin Spansh...........uk.............................. Spector..........fi...........Code...............Trauma Spectre..........tu...........Code...............Flare Steffo...........sw...........Music..............Cryonics Stein............us..............................Night 55 Sub-Seru.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe Sulphurik........pt...........Code............... Szum.............pl...........Editor.............Cryogen Tapeworm.........fi...........Code...............Acid Rain Tbf..............fr...........Swapper............HCL Teque............fi...........Music..............Trauma Thor.............sw...........Gfx................TPOLM Thorin...........fr..............................Melon Dezign Thorsten.........dk...........Gfx^Music..........Purple TJ...............sw..............................Cryonics Tmk..............nw^jp........Gfx^Code...........INF^Dolphin Tonic............fi...........Gfx^Code...........Trauma Traymuss.........pl...........Music..............Giraffe Tremor...........fi...........Code...............Trauma Tristan..........il...........Music.............. Trixter..........us...........Code...............Hornet Ts...............hawaii.......Gfx^Ansi...........Exceed TSC..............hu...........Code...............Astroidea Tudor.........................Gfx................The Black Lotus TuO..............fr...........Code...............Skytech Team Ubbe.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics Ultra Brain......be...........Code...............Green Unreal...........pl...........Code...............Pulse^CNCD Vain.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics Vastator.........us...........Code...............NetGeneration Vector...........us...........Code...............Vertigo Vic..............nl...........Music..............ACME Vim!.............uk...........Music..............Mono Vipa.............dk...........Code...............Purple Virne............fi...........Code...............COMA Void.............fi...........Code...............Trauma Warpig...........hu...........Gfx^Modeller.......Exceed Wave.............nl...........Music..............Maniacs of Noise Willbe...........fr...........Music^Gfx..........Theralite Wizard...........be...........Code...............Imphobia Workbench........ch...........Music..............Calodox^Level-D Xerxes...........no...........Music..............Night 55 Xorbit...........be...........Code...............Green Y................be...........Gfx^Code...........Green Yolque...........fi...........Music..............CNCD Z................fr...........Code...............Nomad Zenial...........pl...........Swapper^Music......Hypnotize^Palsecam Zeno.............be...........3dgfx..............Green Zippy............no...........Code^Editor........Utopia Zoltar...........pt...........Code............... Zorlim...........fi...........Code...............NetGeneration Zsacul...........pl...........Code...............Norferin Last count: 277 Thanks to Barbatron/sT3 and D-Lee/Exceed. Can someone tell me the ip's of hawaii and luxemburg? --------------- ------| 13.Articles |---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Demojournal compo #1 information About: Coding Objective: To make a small executable file that does the following: 1. Loads a chosen demojournal text file (numbers 7 or 8 only) 2. Scans the file until it comes to the demosceners list 3. Counts number of sceners 4. Makes all statistical remarks anyone can imagine on that list. 5. Saves all statistics to a txt file (80*50 MAX) Limitations: Final ascii file must be within 80*50 format! Observations: Source code not required. :) Size of the executable is not an issue. Size of output file is! The bigger number of statistical remarks the better. Don't forget to have a small remark on who coded it on the output file Judging: All entries will be tested and then the output file will be judged based on the following: -size/content -statistical information -Layout Prize: World recognition! Plus you help me have a nice statistical output on future issues of demojournal with your name on it. =) Deadline: 30 October 1998 Results: Results will be posted on 1st demojournal of November! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Active writter I am tired of writing! I am out of topic! I keep deleting what i have just written! So this is what i am writing and i ain't gonna delete it! Beeing a writer sucks! Everyone miss-understand what your point is, when you actually do have a point. Mostly it just ends up in a lot of lines babbling about some stupid subject you feel bad reading back... Why the hell should it be a point in the first place? Can't we just write whatever we feel like writting and that's it? Either way, there is always someone who will read the text and think you are an idiot. I guess the trial is to have more people thinking you are wise and intelegent than people thinking your a stupid ass-hole. No wonder so many people don't like writing! Writing always gets you into trouble... It's like beeing on a room full of people and someone asks you about your opinion. There is no possible way you can say something that will please everyone. So you normally go for the answer that pleases the people who are closest to you... What if that's not possible? What if you have 2 friends, one likes eating lobsters and the other one thinks it's stupid? What to do? Just say whatever you are thinking about... So? You wan't another lobster? Give me one! They are so juicy! You know... that think once lived! It's disgusting! I! I! Can i go to the bathroom? Can you go to the bathroom?!?!? What the hell is wrong with you? Either eat that bloody lobster or say no thanks! Don't run of into the bathroom! You are an irresponsible person! Shame on you! I mean... I... I don't know... You don't know?!?! What you mean you don't know? You want one of those tasty red things or are you going to sit on that chair looking at the little man forever? S... Sure... I guess! What? What about your friend #2? He's going to think your doing it on purpose to make him look bad! I mean... No thanks! Even worse! Indecision! When you choose to do something you should go for it, not leave it halfways! Now you must double apologize and eat the thing! I mean. Yes sure... Pass it over! YOU IDIOT! friend #2 is going to be REALLY pissed at you! friend 2: Nothing personnal... :\ you do what you you like! I don't care... Really! Are you sure... yes i am sure! In fact i don't know what i am doing here! Excuse me! SEE? You pissed him of! Better go talk with him... Who cares? Bye! Don't come back... No! Wait... See what i mean? Problems and more problems! So many fucking problems! Why can't we all just write whatever we feel like writing and live happy ever after? Wait... In that case, most people would write about how they didn't like reading what others have written and so we would have even more people writing! Now think for a moment! Is that good or bad? On one hand we have more active writters. On the other, we now have people having problems with each other! ARGH! Let's be radical... No writters whatsoever! Back to the days where reading and writing was only for the rich and powerfull! But, that means that the rich and powerfull would get into trouble with each other, dragging the lower class into their personal problems. Then, no writing whatsoever! There is no alphabet! Wait, what about people who talk. And we all know how old ladies are like... 'You seen what that other woman did? Oh my god... I have never...' BLA BLA BLA What then? What is the answer? What happens to freedom of speach? Very complicated indeed! Oh well, all this just to say that i am tired of writing articles, so will Adok soon, and Ezah and Furball and Programmer and all other editor's of diskmags! Why the hell won't YOU write for a change?!?!? COMRADES! JOIN THE REVOLUTION! ARTICLES NOW! You are young? You are wrestless? Seeking adventure? Wanting to know the world beyond your home-town? To meet new people? New ways of life? JOIN US! WE WANT YOU ... FOR OUR DISKMAGS/NEWSLETTERS! Let's all contribute for a better tommorow! Write an article! Another army announcement? *zap* Oh! That's what that son of yours would need... Always stuck on that room of his, always staring at that computer of his... It takes 2 to tango or have you forgotten? It's your fault... I wanted to buy another dog remember? Don't you start that again... Hey old man, where are the car keys? Later... Anyways... Do write some articles when possible! :) Psychic Symphony ---------- ------| 14.END |--------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Please send demojournal to all your demoscene contacts world-wide! Sorry for lack of articles on this issue. Life sukz and then you die! Feel free to send any feedback, i would really appreciate it. Psychic Symphony - ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt